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(11:04 am to 2:16 pm)
Antonio Giordano, Vesper; Edith of Swanesdale, Matins; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Astrith of Swansvale, PaL; Moira of Kent, Deputy Seawolf; Moira o’Connor, Sableswan; Derelei filia Uoret, Coronet; Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Green Banner; Eilis O'Boirne, Green Crown; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym ap Morgan o Erryrys, Green Trumpet; Ræv Kolfinnsson, Leveret; Domamir Vlatko syn, Seawolf; Caitriona inghean ui Chionaodha, Stellanordica; Angus Duncan Cameron, PEaL.
COLLEGE OF HERALDS MEETINGS
The May, 2022 meeting was held via remote teleconference, as will be the upcoming meetings until Vesper
announces otherwise.
Meetings for 2022: July 17, September 18, November 6.
Meetings usually begin at 11:00 AM and will be held via online/remote teleconference until further notice
(see also: When/Where Are the
Next Meetings?).
The DEADLINES for submission forms and documentation are: Deadlines: July 6, September 7, October 26. Submission forms must be complete and received either via EMAIL or hardcopy by the deadline date at midnight to be considered at the next meeting (which is about 11 days later, except December due to holidays and the roadshow meeting prep time needed). If the forms are EMAILED, then payment must arrive by the meeting day. WALK-IN submissions will not be accepted while meetings are held via remote conference.
REPORTS
Vesper (Antonio): Deputy (Eilis): He made an offer of Herald Extraordinaire to Astrith of Swansvale, who accepted. She has served the West College over many years in different positions, including running the Kingdom Consultation Table reliably and consistently for long years by herself.
The position of Baldric is open and will be covered by the College as a whole, with each member of the College encouraged to teach, train, and develop.
Eilis has agreed to be drop-dead deputy to Vesper, and to remain on as Executive Assistant to Vesper in the future.
Seawolf (Damir): Successor (Moira): Investiture took place on Saturday and reports will be submitted shortly. Of additional note, Viscountess Moira of Kent has officially stepped into the role of Deputy/Successor Seawolf.
Sable Swan (Moira): Successor (Victoria): Coronet is in two weeks. If anyone is going to be there, please find her as she will need help. All Court reports have been submitted and confirmed, to her knowledge.
She has a new deputy: Victoria of Durham, with the intention to change the office in July.
Stellanordica (Caitriona): Oertha is opening up, but slowly. To the best of her knowledge all Courts have been submitted and approved. The next Principality event will be in July. She is looking for heraldic assistance, as there will be visiting Royalty at the event.
Exchequer (Damir): Successor (Heinreich): The College remains solvent. At the behest of Vesper, he reached out to the Kingdom Exchequer who reached out to the College of Arms Exchequer to discuss the ability to accept electronic payments for submissions fees. Per Edmond, the ability to use PayPal for heralds is in the Society financial policy, but it isn't in the Kingdom financial policy. It is for the use of a card reader for taking in-person payments for submissions at events. Edmond has added a proposed amendment to the Kingdom financial policy to allow for heraldic submissions. Once approved, Damir or someone from the College of Heralds would need to be trained on using PayPal Here or PayPal Zettle, which are the card readers.
Just be aware that it could take a while to get approved. The policy has to be approved by the Kingdom Financial Committee, as well as the Board of Directors.
Lastly, he has a deputy/successor for the Office of Heralds Exchequer in the form of Heinreich von Melk.
Matins (Edith): Submissions continue to move through the process. Be aware that her drop-dead Deputy has stepped down. Matins is actively looking for deputies/trainees to assist with this position.
July Meeting: Eilis will run this meeting for the College. Please copy Eilis on all report submissions.
Green Crown (Eilis): Successor (Damir): As far as she can tell, all Courts held at Western events have been properly reported and have been/are being confirmed.
All awards from Beltane have been reported and confirmed, as far as she can tell.
While there has been a bit of fu with the reporting system, Hirsch has been diligently working with the West Kingdom IT Team to get everything working smoothly again.
Court Heralds' Regalia: While she promised Norse apron panels for Spring Crown and Beltane, they have been delayed by her hand surgery -- it is impossible to use tiny scissors to cut applique when fingers alternate between swollen and stiff. All materials came from her stash and they will be ready by June Crown. There will also be a square cloak with crossed trumpets for Norse-presenting court heralds who are not wearing aprons. No reimbursement will be requested for these.
The hoods made by Anne FitzRichard were completed by Spring Crown and have been worn with great success. They are comfortable to wear with a wide variety of garb and in a wide variety of temperatures. No reimbursement will be requested for these.
They believe that they have discovered a linen suitable for the more formal tabards. These will be much more elaborate and they hope to have them ready by Twelfth Night. Materials costs will be requested for these. They do not have estimates yet since a great deal of the cost will depend on whether they are appliqued, embroidered, or use some other technique. Receipts will be provided. This set will also include coordinating baldrics for secondary court heralds.
The search for the bag of court tabards continues, but they have pretty much given up on them showing up. The old silk tabards were found in the Royal Trailer and the embroideries on them may be utilized on tabards for secondary court heralds.
Succession: Domamir vlatko syn has agreed to be her deputy/successor with the intent to turn over the office sometime between Fall Crown and Twelfth Night, contingent on his successful divestiture from both the Seawolf and College Exchequer positions.
Baldric (vacant): The position of training within the West Kingdom College of Heralds. Both for current heralds and for those interested in learning more about heraldry. If anyone is interested in filling this position, please reach out to Vesper.
Vesper plans on running training as a College-wide program, not assigned to a specific individual at this time.
Brachet (Kean): No report received.
Green Cloak (Alizan): Field Heraldry happened at Beltane! Only five voices were utilized for the armored and rapier tournaments. Damir and Eleanora O’Connor called the armored fights: the rapier field was covered by Dustin Thorne, Maeve (known as Pumpkin), and Marguerite du Royon.
Green Trumpet (Gwenhwyfaer): Gwynhwyfaer is stepping into this role, which she will manage as an administrative position. The entire College is reminded that this is a service we provide for the Kingdom and to please step in and assist at all events.
Kingdom A&S June 10-12: Aasa will handle duty shouts on Saturday.
Gwenhwyfaer would like baldrics or tabards for the use of the Duty Heralds to show their official status while working. The College currently has up to 7 available for field and other needs.
She is planning to teach a voice-class on Saturday morning at Cynagua Coronet. She will also be available at all Kingdom events.
Green Banner (Aasa): The consultation table was at March Crown, where they had a couple of people drop in for name consultation. Ræv sat at the table with her, which was both helpful and appreciated.
Online consultation continues. She has a number of ongoing consultations on both name and armory, largely with newcomers who are brought to her by Cecilia Nail.
She will be moving to a much smaller place next month, where she will unfortunately not have space to safely store the College's library. She is open to potential solutions to this problem. She is happy to continue in this office, especially if a new home for the library can be found, but if there is someone who both wants the office and can house the library she is also content to pass it on.
Golem (Hirsch): Since the last meeting, Ræv completed the big project of all that armory for the Who’s Who/History site, which is amazing. A couple minor changes to the Court Reports and Awards List have been implemented, due to the lack of any means of tracking award scrolls. The goal is to help avoid duplicate scrolls being made, and to make it possible for a scribe to see if someone already has a scroll for an award. The implementation, after fixing a minor hiccup, has gone well. He is hoping more people will update their information, but it is what he can do without creating a whole new scribal database (which is not something he feels to with the other applications he is doing now).
ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business
GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTSFacebook Page: The West Kingdom Heralds' have their own page on Facebook, announcements, help with consultation, and more are often done there:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/302970543102065/
MAILING LIST: The Yahoo hosted mailing lists have been closed by the folk at Yahoo. At this time, we no longer have a means of communicating with the College of Heralds except the Facebook Page noted above, or via email. To make it possible to post announcements from senior staff heralds, there is a new Announcements page (link removed, as this page was not used and removed from the site).
ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.
BRACHET MEETINGS
Contact brachet@heralds.westkingdom.org for external commenting participation.
FROM THE LOARS
The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.
March, 2022 LoAR (printed May 5, 2022) (West - No LoI)
Cover Letter
West Acceptances - March LoAR
None!
West Returns - March LoAR
None!
In Service,
Edith of Swanesdale, PaL,
Matins Herald
SUBMISSONS – May (2022)
ITEMS SENT TO LAUREL
The submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes and cares about the meaning (autumn forest moon), language and/or culture (Japanese), and gender (female) of the name.
Akizuki - a Japanese a family name belonging to a person before 1600, Akizuki Tanenaga (1587-1614). Source: Pretzer, Xavid "Kihō, O-umajirushi: A 17th-Century Compendium of Samurai Heraldry", 2015, p157
and as a family name from NCS NCMJ 2nd edition, dated 1550 on p.34.
Moriko - a feminine Japanese name that was used prior to 1600. Dated 1392. From No Copy Source Throndardottir, Solveig, "Name Construction in Mediæval Japan", 1994-2nd edition, p. 379.
The Japanese name formation <family name + nanori> is found in NCMJ, 2nd ed. page 7 on constructing feminine Japanese names.
Device:
Gules, a polypus within an annulet argent.
The submitter cares about the language and/or culture (Romano British 4th Century) and the gender (male) of the name.
Daniel Bellator - no documentation provided
The West heralds provided some possibilities to document this name as close as they could to the submission. This information was posted on the LoI when submitted to the SCA College of Arms.
Device:
Argent, a snake with a head at each end in annulo heads to chief respectant gules,
a point pointed counter-ermine.
The West College is not sure how to blazon the primary charge. Suggestions included ‘a snake with a head at both ends in annulo’ and ‘a snake headed torc’.
The submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes and marked no other boxes.
Ekaterina - from NCS “Paul Goldschmidt's Dictionary of Period Russian Names - Section E-F”: Ekaterina. 1533. [Nov 561]. [https://heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/e-f.html].
Veshniakova - from NCS Wickenden (please provide citation): derived from Veshniak. The masculine patronymic form is Veshniakov, and the feminine patryonymic form is Veshniakova. [https://heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/va.html]. The formation of the feminine patronymic is from the same source at [https://heraldry.sca.org/names/paul/zgrammar.html].
The Russian name formation <given + marked patronymic> can be found in SENA Appendix A.
Device:
Argent estencely, a pomegranate gules slipped and leaved vert.
House of the Tassel and Cur
Formed as “House of the Animal + Object”.
Per the Compact Edition of the Oxford English Dictionary, <cur> dated to 1225 [Volume 1, p.625] and <tassel> dated to 1440 [Volume 2, p. 3241].
The form of the name is documented in: Dictionary of Inn-Sign Names in Medieval and Renaissance England, by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith). [http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~grm/signs-1485-1636.html]
Badge:
(Fieldless) A dog passant regardant argent, maintaining in its mouth a tassel gules.
The submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes and marked no other boxes.
Joseph - NCS Bahlow / Gentry p. 279 states that <Joseph> was "in use only since the Reformation" in Germany. According to multiple sources, the Protestant Reformation is considered to have begun in 1517, well within our time period.
[https://digitalcommons.chapman.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1177&context=esi_working_papers] Causes and Consequences of the Protestant Reformation.
[https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-1-349-00366-2%2F1.pdf] The Protestant Reformation. Front matter and introduction.
Sybold - LoAR comment on the registration of his father's name [LoAR 01-2006] was
"However, to preserve the pronunciation of the last name that was submitted, we have changed it to Sybold instead, which is in Brechenmacher under the heading Sieboldshausen , with a citation dated to 1403 for Kurt Syboldeshusen zu Witzenhausen . From this entry, we believe that the submitted spelling is justified."
If there is not sufficient documentation found for ‘Sybold’ note that it is his father’s registered name (Friedrich Sybold, registered January 2006 via the West). Relationship attested as the father is submitting this on behalf of the minor child.
The German name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA, Appendix A.
Device:
Per fess gules and azure, a pithon displayed counterchanged argent and Or.
There may be a SFCP for displaying the pithon.
The submitter cares about the language and/or culture (none noted) and the gender (female) of the name.
Kanamori - from NCS NCMJ: historical surname meaning ‘golden woods’ dated to 1568, p.318.
Harukiri - from NCS NCMJ: historical feminine given name meaning ‘spring mist’ dated to 1572, p. 374.
The Japanese name formation <family name + nanori> is found in NCMJ, 2nd ed. page 7 on constructing feminine Japanese names.
Device:
Azure, a hurst Or and in chief a crescent between two clouds argent.
The submitter cares about the sound (none noted) and gender (female) of the name.
Following the format found on Heraldry.SCA.org’s Using FamilySearch Historical Records by Domhnall na Moicheirghe and Juliana de Luna, with added website links:
Katherine
- from NCS Withycombe, p. 186-187, dated to 1160 as <Katerina>. Withycombe states that the standard spellings in Middle English were <Katerine>, <Kateline>, and <Catlin>, with the "h" being added in the 16th century [that is, the 1500's].
- Katherine Cranage, Female, 14 May 1592, Manchester, Lancashire, England, M3KW-N3Z (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPDR-M66)
- Katherine Corbe, Female, 7 Sep 1550, Elm, Cambridgeshire, England, United Kingdom, K8MK-LT9 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSGD-2WR).
- Katherine Cropeley, Female, 20 Apr 1587, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England, United Kingdom, MK7P-8JH (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSG4-LMP).
- Katherine Curtler, Female, 4 Jul 1599, Lapley, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom, MFWL-17R (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBYH-HY4).
- Katherine Curtler, Female, 4 Jul 1599, Lapley, Staffordshire, England, MFWL-17R (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL3L-6Y5C).
Yearwood
- Humfray Yearwood, Male, 04 Apr 1585, St John the Baptist, Knutsford, Cheshire, England, MQ4F-NK2 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F7B7-KX6) – the microfiche image for this entry confirms the attested spelling.
- John Yearwood, Male, 7 Feb 1573, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England MLH8-LWJ (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQRL-S9N).
- William Yearwood, Male, 27 Sep 1567, Goostrey-cum-Barnshaw, Cheshire, England, MFM1-DP9 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3K9-HN5).
- Ellen Yearwood, Female, 18 Feb 1567, Goostrey-cum-Barnshaw, Cheshire, England, MFM1-D23 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3V1-V3L).
- Marie Yearwood, Female, 10 May 1561, Goostrey-cum-Barnshaw, Cheshire, England, MFM1-DG6 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F7QT-YJM).
The submitter cares about the gender (male) of the name.
Logan - from NCS Reaney & Wilson as a surname p. 283 under the header <Logan>. Robert Logan 1204.
Path - from NCS FamilySearch [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NF7T-16F]. Francis Path, male, christened January 6, 1588, Epworth, Lincolnshire, England. Batch number C01944-4.
Warden - from NCS Reaney & Wilson, p. 476 under the header <Warden>. Wardein 1279, le Wardeyn 1289, de Waredon 1232, de Wardon 1297.
The late period English naming pattern <given + byname + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.
Device:
Sable, three flames proper each charged with a pellet, on a chief Or three bees sable.
The submitter cares about the language and/or culture (11th century Norse occupied England) and the gender (male) of the name.
Lúcás - from NCS ‘Index of Names in Irish Annals: Lúcás’ by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O’Brian): ‘Lúcás’ found between 1291-1434 [https://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Lucas.shtml].
mac - per SENA Appendix A, to form patronymic byname
Conmáel - from NCS ‘Index of Names in Irish Annals: Conmáel’ by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O’Brian): ‘Conmáel’ found between 710-980.
The Scots Gaelic name formation <given + patronymic byname> can be found in SENA, Appendix A.
Device:
Per saltire Or and vert, a boar rampant to sinister and a bordure sable.
Badge 1
(Fieldless) A winged fox’s mask Or.
Badge 2
Argent, a winged fox segreant Or.
This is a resubmission to Kingdom. Badge, Argent, a winged fox segreant Or, submitted and Returned at the May 2019 West Kingdom Heralds Meeting with the notes:
A conflict for this badge was found: Ingolf of Clontarf, device registered Feb. 1989 (via the West): Per bend purpure and sable, a bat-winged jackal rampant Or. There is one DC for the field change, no differences for jackal -> fox and bat-winged -> winged.
The submitter provided research materials in support of an Individually Attested Pattern. He provides images of Or animals on argent fields in a variety of combinations included a winged quadruped, several non-winged quadrupeds, a bird, and a head. All of these images are from one armorial, illustrated by Virgil Raber, c. 1522-1548
The resubmission is being sent in because of a new precedent (with resulting changes to SENA) that removes this conflict. See: [https://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A5F]
This submission still requires an IAP, for which the submitter provides images of Or animals on argent fields in a variety of combinations included a winged quadruped, several non-winged quadrupeds, a bird, and a head. The images are from: five images from an armorial, illustrated by Virgil Raber, c. 1522-1548 [http://bilderserver.at/wappenbuecher/VirgilRaberEXAv2_52z2/]. Three images from Neustifter Wappenbuch [https://manuscripta.at/diglit/IT5000-sn5/0001]. Two images from [http://bilderserver.at/wappenbuecher/HandschriftCod7357EXA2_52z2/].
The submitter cares about the sound (sound like Torix or be able to be abbreviated to this) and does not care about the gender of the name.
Torix - - from Vercingetorix, Gaulish chieftan documented by Julius Caesar in The Gallic Wars By Julius Caesar. Other documented names from the same writing by Julius Caesar (that could also work and are less famous) are Lugotorix and Orgetorix.
From Celtic Personal Names of Roman Britain: Cingetorix, Lugotorix. [https://www.asnc.cam.ac.uk/personalnames/search.php?s_element=ri:go-].
Per the references provided, the name elements are <Vercingeto-rix>, <Lugoto-rix>, and <Orgeto-rix>.
Evans on pages 166-169 in Gaulish Personal Names [see provided docs] has <Teuto->, also spelled <Touto-> and <Toto->, as one of the commonest Gaulish name elements. He provides many examples with a variety of second elements. I think it is reasonable to construct <Teutorix> or <Totorix> from these elements.
Either of these could be shortened in use as the submitter suggested as could many other names that end in <…[vowel]t-o-rix>.
Preference for Name:
- Torix
- Vercingetorix
- Lugotorix
- Totorix
of Teufelberg - SCA local group name. "Teufelberg, Shire" of registered in Oct. 1981 (via the West) formed using the Branch Name Allowance per SENA PN.1.B.2.f.
If all else fails, preferred holding name: Ian of Teufelberg.
Device:
Quarterly argent and azure, a bend gules.
RETURNS
English translation: Freyja the Witch from/of Devil Mountain
This name is returned for Claim of Power under SENA PN4C which was further recently defined in the Precedent set on the January 2022 LoAR.
The West College further notes, items that would not require the name to be returned at this level, that ‘Freyja’ has only been documented as a goddess-name, not as a name in use by people during SCA period and ‘Von Teufelberg’ would be documentable as ‘von Teufelsberg’ (German locative) or ‘of Teufelberg’ (SCA group name allowance).
The submitted device is Returned due to the name being Returned. No conflict was found at this time.
The submitted badge is Returned due to the name being Returned. No conflict was found at this time.
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