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Alizan De la Fontaine, Vesper; Edith of Swanesdale, Matins; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Astrið of Swansvale, PaL; Rivka of Shushan, Blue Heron; Eilis O'Boirne, Banner; Domamir Vlatko syn, Seawolf; Moira O’Connor, Sableswan; Seamus the Shameless, Rivenoak; Caitriona inghean ui Chionaodha, Stellanordica; Kallinikos Gavras; Constance Isabel Rose; Friedrich Sybold.
COLLEGE OF HERALDS MEETINGS
The September 2021 meeting was held via remote teleconference.
Meetings for 2021: November 7. Meetings for 2022: January 9, March 13, May 15,
July TBD (pending KWHSS), September 18, November 6.
Meetings usually begin at 11:00 AM and will be held via online/remote teleconference until further notice
(see also: When/Where Are the
Next Meetings?).
The DEADLINES for submission forms and documentation are: 2021 Deadlines: October 27. 2022 Deadlines: December 22, 2021 for the January meeting, March 2, May 4, July TBD, September 7, October 26. Submission forms must be complete and received either via EMAIL or hardcopy by the deadline date at midnight to be considered at the next meeting (which is about 11 days later, except December due to holidays and the roadshow meeting prep time needed). If the forms are EMAILED, then payment must arrive by the meeting day. WALK-IN submissions will not be accepted while meetings are held via remote conference.
REPORTS
Vesper (Alizan): Still seeking candidates to take on the positions of Green Trumpet (town cry) deputy: Green Cloak (field) deputy; and Compline (successor to Principle Herald). Any interested parties should contact Vesper with their resumes (herald@westkingdom.org).
At West Fall Crown and Coronation:
Mercy Grym - Laurel, Cypher of the Gratia Coronae
Domamir Vlatko syn - Pelican Vigilant, offered admittance at West Fall Crown, Baron of the Court of the West,
Crown's Favor, Queen's Order of Maintenance, Queen's Cypher, Cypher of the Gratia Coronae.
Received the Cypher of the Gratia Coronae: Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Alizan De la Fontaine, Angus Duncan Cameron, Edith of Swanesdale, Eilis ni Roibeard O'Boirne, Finna kǫttr Goðormsdóttir, Frederick of Holland, Hannah the Storyteller, Kean de Lacy, Khevron Oktavii Tikhikovich Vorotnikov, Moira O'Connor, Rivka of Shushan, Séamus the Shameless, Shimon Levi ben Yitzhak haKohen
At Mists Coronet Tournament and Investiture: Mercy Grym - Coronet's Favor; Rew Payne - Coronet's Favor, Stalwart Heart
Seawolf (Damir): The Mists had a coronet/investiture and have new royals. All court reports have been submitted and approved. He had a good lead on a deputy, but she's busy for the next 6+months.
Sable Swan (Moira): Cynaguan Coronet is coming, the first weekend in October. She is looking for volunteers for the event. She has a potential deputy.
Stellanordica (Caitriona): Oertha’s upcoming Principality court next weekend! (Sept 25-26). Their Majesties and the Prince and Princess of the Mists are expected to attend.
Tournaments – Oerthan Fall Coronet next weekend!
Winter’s Gate had a local event with a tournament on September 11, with Khevron leading for herald’s work.
The Barony of Selviergard demo’d at a local event in Houston, AK on August 21 – Margarita Catherine di Calvi and Bartram Sinclair served as heralds for the fights.
She is still seeking a replacement for Stellanordica, so please keep that in the "jobs available" listings! Now that people are getting together again, she hopes to try offering training and practice for heralds in the Principality, with the hopes of encouraging folks to take offices.
Exchequer (Damir): The College remains solvent. No updates since last meeting.
Matins (Edith): Deputy (Hannah): The submissions process continues. Matins has not had time to advertise for the administrative team she would like to put together to run the submissions process. This is still planned for the future.
Green Crown (Eilis): Fall Crown was an absolute festival of Court, with five being held -- one of which was a final court, coronation, and first court. While several heralds participated in more than one court, no herald was lead for more than one court. All court reports were submitted and approved. Saint Damir saved all of our sanities by providing court lists in advance, and by bringing printed lists to the event.
One of the highlights of the event was the awarding of the Western Gratia Coronae, an interkingdom award. Each kingdom was allotted 150 awards. Since this is not a continuing honor, it was not put into law.
Baldric (Gwenhwyfaer): Nothing has changed since the last meeting.
Brachet (Kean), Leveret (Ræv): Some commenting happened, but not as much as he'd like. Some of those letters were really big. He helped out a little with the last Virtual Heralds Point. After some learning pains, that worked pretty well.
Green Cloak (vacant): This position oversees Field Heralds for the Kingdom events (Crown tourneys, Wars, etc.). If interested in this position, please contact Vesper.
Green Trumpet (vacant): This position will oversee Town Cry (formerly called Duty Shout) and Heralds Point (information). If interested in this position, please contact Vesper.
Green Banner (Aasa): She participated again as a consulting herald in the latest Virtual Heralds Point, which was a great deal of fun, and has been continuing to consult online.
Unfortunately, she was unable to attend either Crown or Mists Coronet, the latter of which she had originally intended to bring the consultation table to. She will also sadly be absent from this meeting due to a schedule conflict and probably the November meeting due to travel plans.
The College's library remains safe in the garage at her house and gets used with some regularity. She is considering doing an Online Consultation Table on some sort of regular basis in order to be more accessible to our populace. Feedback and advice are welcome, including suggestions for the best platform to use.
Golem (Hirsch): Golem Herald has been the usual form of busy – mostly waiting for court reports and then a mad rush to get the data in.
With Crown and Mists Coronet just done, a very large number of reports have been processed. Along the way the Court Report form was enhanced a little, adding the option to put in more than 30 items for an individual report by clicking a button and adding 10 more ... (repeatable as many times as needed). This is useful for when the Queen or a Princess (or whatever) gives out a large number of Cyphers, Tokens, etc., and other (hopefully) rare circumstances. Fixed a couple odd little bugs found in the code (an issue with Prince Da’ud’s name for one of the pages, the apostrophe caused a bit of heartburn, luckily the fix wasn’t hard once he figured out where to put it). Otherwise, business as usual.
There is a NEW change for Court Reporting: if over 100 people are receiving the same award, there is now an option to attach to the court report, instead of adding each name manually to the form.
There’s a nibble by one individual as a possible backup person, but he’s not all that comfortable with more than basic code technique... (hopefully won’t be that much of an issue, but still). They’ll talk over the next few months.
ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business
GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTSFacebook Page: The West Kingdom Heralds' have their own page on Facebook, announcements, help with consultation, and more are often done there:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/302970543102065/
MAILING LIST: The Yahoo hosted mailing lists have been closed by the folk at Yahoo. At this time, we no longer have a means of communicating with the College of Heralds except the Facebook Page noted above, or via email. To make it possible to post announcements from senior staff heralds, there is a new Announcements page (link removed, as this page was not used and removed from the site).
ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.
BRACHET MEETINGS
Contact brachet@heralds.westkingdom.org for external commenting participation.
FROM THE LOARS
The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.
June, 2021 LoAR (printed August 9, 2021) (West - March, 2021 LoI)
Cover Letter
West Acceptances - June LoAR
West Returns - June LoAR
July, 2021 LoAR (printed September 12, 2021) (West - April, 2021 LoI)
Cover Letter
West Acceptances - July LoAR
West Returns - July LoAR
West Pends - July LoAR
In Service,
Edith of Swanesdale, PaL,
Matins Herald
SUBMISSONS – September (2021)
ITEMS SENT TO LAURELThe submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes and cares about the language and/or culture (late period English) and gender (female) of the name.
Constance - from NCS Withycombe, p 72. dated 1273
- from ‘Faire Names for English Folk: Late Sixteenth Century English Names’ (3rd Ed.
Published 1 August 2000) by Chris Laning (SCA: Christian de Holacombe).
[https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/christian/fairnames/givennames.html#women]
Isabel - from NCS Withycombe, p 164, dated 1273, 1284
- from Faire Names for English Folk: Late Sixteenth Century English Names’ (3rd Ed. Published 1 August 2000)
by Chris Laning (SCA: Christian de Holacombe).
[https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/christian/fairnames/givennames.html#women]
Rose - from NCS Reaney and Wilson, revised 3rd edition p 383 under the header ‘Rose, Royce, Royse’ including ‘Peter Rose 1302’ and ‘Richard Royse, Rose 1604, 1609’.
The late-period English name formation <double given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.
(Fieldless) An anchor argent sustained by two squirrels respectant gules.
The submitter requests Authenticity for language and/or culture and time period, and cares most about the language and/or culture and meaning with the note “If a change must be made, please see Name Documentation for detail.” The submitter desires a masculine name.
Giric is a Scotts Gaelic given male name from 801-1000 and from 1101-1200. The site specifies this spelling of the name and the time periods indicated. Although this source is a draft source and the name does not have a hyperlink associated with it, the chart provides the name and its spelling to within dates permitted for the registration of SCA names. The article is on Medieval Scotland: [http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/gaelicgiven/men.shtml#scottishgaelic].
Reamhar is a Scotts Gaelic descriptive byname meaning "Stout" which is listed as an example in the Descriptive Adjective Byname part of the "Quick Gaelic Bynames" article of Medieval Scotland. The example is listed in the paragraph. See the source referenced above.
The Descriptive Adjective Byname part of the "Quick Gaelic Bynames" article on Medieval Scotland indicates that the adjective is not put into the Genitive Case and that the adjective is not Lenited (as opposed to women's names which were lenited). Therefore, the Nominative Form should be retained. See website: [http://medievalscotland.org/scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/#descriptivewithpatronymic].
The Gaelic language group name formation of <given + descriptive byname> can be found in SENA Appendix A.
Additional comment from submitter: If the name must be changed, the submitter cares most about: Language/Culture: Scottish Gaelic or Scottish Norse given name from year 1300 or before; Meaning: Scottish Adjective byname meaning "Stout" (for approximately the same time period as the given name).
The submitter requests Authenticity for language and/or culture and time period, “Late (approximately 1400s-1600s) French Woman's name” and cares most about the language and/or culture and sound with the note “Cadence of Pronunciation (flows off the tongue). Submitter like the "de la" construction.” The submitter desires a feminine name.
Jacquelyna is a Late Period French Woman's Given name dating 1514 and 1521 listed in the article: "Late Period Feminine Names from the South of France" by Talan Gwynek (aka Brian M. Scott), 1999. See website: [https://heraldry.sca.org/names/latefrenchfem.html].
de la is a locative construction for French names listed in SENA, Appendix A See the notes under the Chart for French names detailing Locative Name Construction.
Cour - found in Academy of Saint Gabriel Report 1126 (15th Century French) [http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?1126+0].
- Morlet Picardie p. 330 s.n. "De la Cour" dates <Jehan de la Cour> to 1401.
- from NCS Family Search: Gerard De La Cour: Record Collection: France, Births and Baptisms, 1546-1896, Document Information: Microfilm Number 1177889, Originating System EASY, Indexing Batch C82604-1, Citing this Record.
"France, Naissance et baptêmes, 1546-1896", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X1LM-9B3 : 14 September 2019), Gerard De La Cour, 1579.
The French name formation <given + locative byname from a general toponym> is found in SENA, Appendix A.
The submitter requests Authenticity for language and/or culture (Nahuatl), and cares about the language and/or culture (Nahuatl), the sound (Nahuatl), and the gender (male) of the name.
Note: Nahuatl, the most important of the Uto-Aztecan languages, was the language of the Aztec and Toltec civilizations of Mexico. [https://www.britannica.com/topic/Nahuatl-language]
Omecipactli - a "day name", a name based on a Mexican ritual calendar that was given to Mexica youth a few days after birth. The name translates to "2-Crocodile".
Doc2 is an excerpt from the Codex Magliabechiano that mentions cipactli as one of the day signs. [http://www.famsi.org/research/graz/magliabechiano/thumbs_0.html]
Atlixcatl - a locative name in Nahuatl meaning "person from Atlixco." It was the name of a Mexica ruler, in the honorific form “Atlixcatzin.” He is mentioned in the Cronica Mexicayotl, a 16th century text, on page 144.
Doc3 is a Cronica Mexicayotl Excerpt [https://www.google.com/books/edition/Cronica_Mexicayotl/NhteYgEACAAJ?hl=en].
Doc4 shows “Atlixcatl” in the University of Oregon’s Nahuatl dictionary compendium [https://nahuatl.uoregon.edu/content/atlixcatl].
This name is documented in the Nahuatl language of Mexico. Nahuatl names were composed of a "tonalli", or "day name", and a nickname. More information on Mexica naming patterns can be found at [https://www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/language/prehispanic-nahua-naming-patterns].
Device:
This is a change of device, the submitter requests that her previous device,
Azure, a talbot sejant argent maintaining beneath its dexter forepaw a clew of yarn,
in chief a kitchen knife fesswise reversed Or, be released upon registration of the new device.
Badge:
(Fieldless) A talbot’s head cabossed within and conjoined to a masculyn argent.
RETURNS
Or, a crocodile/cipactli glyph, a bordure vert.
See attached documentation for the cipactli glyph and the use of glyphs on Mexican chimalli (shields).
This submission was returned for further work, specifically to address the multi-color emblazon. No conflicts were found at this time.
PENDS
(Fieldless) A winged monkey rampant bendy argent and sable.
Note: the West College could not identify the monkey in the original emblazon, and when told the intention of the charge felt that the emblazon had lost all the identifying features of the monkey. Alternates were provided to the submitter, who is working with the College on a redraw.
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