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The May meeting was via remote conference, as will be the upcoming meetings until Vesper announces otherwise.
Alizan De la Fontaine, Vesper; Edith of Swanesdale, Matins; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Astrið of Swansvale, PaL; Na'arah bat Avraham, Pinnacle; Eilis O'Boirne, Green Crown (in exile); Domamir Vlatko syn, Seawolf; Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Green Banner; Shimon Levi ben Yitzchak haKohen, Baron of Tarnmist; Rivka of Shushan, Blue Heron; Douglas of Champclair; Kean de Lacy, Brachet; Moira O’Connor, Sableswan; Angus Duncan Cameron, PEaL; James MacGowan, Cornet; Hannah the Storyteller, Deputy Matins; Frederick of Holland, PaL.
COLLEGE OF HERALDS MEETINGS
Heralds' Meetings for 2020: July 26, September 20, and November 15.
Meetings for 2021: January 10th (at Twelfth Night). March 14, May 16, July 18,
September 19, November 7. Meetings usually begin at 11:00 AM and will be
held via online/remote teleconference until further notice
(see also: When/Where Are the
Next Meetings?).
The DEADLINES for submission forms and documentation are: July 15, September 9, and November 4. 2021 Deadlines: December 16, 2020, March 3, 2021, May 5, July 7, September 8, October 27. Submission forms must be complete and received either via EMAIL or hardcopy by the deadline date at midnight to be considered at the next meeting (which is about 11 days later, except December due to holidays and the roadshow meeting prep time needed). If the forms are EMAILED, then payment must arrive by the meeting day. WALK-IN submissions will only be considered if there is time, but in most cases will be delayed until the next meeting so that each submission can be reviewed fully.
REPORTS
Vesper (Alizan): The West Kingdom College of Heralds continues to function and to provide court, consultation, and registration services for the populace of the West Kingdom.
Business and commenting meetings continue in an online-only format: information on meetings can be found here: http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Meetings.php.
We welcome anyone who is interested in learning about heraldry: our Handbook can be found here: http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Handbook/index.php.
We continue seeking candidates to take on the newly created Green Trumpet town cry deputy position. Any interested parties should contact Vesper with their resumes (herald@westkingdom.org).
She intends to request an extension of her term as Vesper: however, in August she will begin searching for a deputy.
Finally, there have been no further developments with regard to the Silent Heralds / Muted Emissaries since her last report.
Seawolf (Damir): They are having online courts as needed for Principality business (office changeovers, etc.) but otherwise there is nothing to report.
Sable Swan (Moira): At this point, Coronet and Investiture have been canceled. Their Highnesses, Ragnarr and Brynhildr, are not planning on any virtual courts as They wish to do awards in-person.
Stellanordica (Bianca): No report received.
Exchequer (Damir): The College remains solvent. He confirms that the most recent check to the SCA CoA was cashed. We are underway transitioning from our current account at Mechanic's Bank to a new account at Bank of the West.
KWHSS 2021 (Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium) Updates:
We are looking at July 9-11, 2021 and have received a viable quote from the San Ramon Marriott.
(Where this past 12th night was held.) He is pending approval from Kingdom Seneschal
to proceed with the bid.
Matins (Edith): Deputy (Hannah): Acceptance of the digital submissions of forms is fully up and running for the West. Submitters are encouraged to email in scanned or saved copies of their submission forms to Matins. The requirements for the number and type of forms has not changed. Fees must still be sent as check or money order via postal mail. Ensure the SCA name for the submissions is included somewhere on the check, so Matins can match the payment to the submission.
Submissions continue to reach the College and move on to the SCA College of Arms through the usual process. If you are a consulting herald or a local group herald, we encourage you to reach out to those around you and offer consultation through what means you have available. Please ensure you refer clients to the WKCoH website to ensure submissions are processed correctly: http://heralds.westkingdom.org/Register.php. Now is a great time to work on heraldry, as people may have fewer distractions/demands on their time!
As the SCA CoA was operating on a digital basis prior to the pandemic, little has changed with the process for submissions, aside from some of the decision meetings changing dates/times to accommodate changing schedules.
Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium 2020 - July 11-12 - this event will continue as an electronic event. See https://kwhss.lochac.sca.org/?fbclid=IwAR3KUyI6svb3DDdUANt0F4kiaOParyrpoSd18WG-M1QF0FCqGO5bT645B-U for more information.
Wolfhound (Astrid): Nothing to report.
Green Crown (Eilis): Since the last meeting, there has been one Royal Court, for Virtual Beltane. This was handled by Seawolf, as Their Majesties' Head of Court and Chief Tech Advisor. The Court was done well, and she particularly noted the use of "joyful noise" rather than the standard cheer as a good adjustment to circumstances. Thank you, Damir! (Also, the report has been filed and approved.)
The next Court will probably be June Crown.
She is seeking a successor, but does not currently have a candidate to present.
Baldric (Gwenhwyfaer): She does not have email access at this time. Please contact her via phone, as needed, until further notice.
Just found out about Virtual Collegium on the 13th of June. Field heraldry, Voice projection,
etc. are not good fits for a virtual event. She will help coordinate a heraldic track:
Eilis offered a court-setup course.
Edith offered a how-to-submit-heraldry course and (with Astrið & Jocelyn) a heraldic-display course.
Flieg / Aasa offered to teach how-to-select-an-SCA-name.
Brachet (Kean), Leveret (Ræv): He was getting commenting done consistently for a while, but less so the last few weeks. He will get back to it as he is able.
Green Cloak (Ari Ella): Nothing to report, other than that she misses everyone terribly.
Green Trumpet (vacant): Deputy Support: Juliana of Sunset Shire. New Senior Staff position.
This position will oversee Town Cry (formerly called Duty Shout) and Heralds Point (information). If interested in this position, please contact Vesper.
The duties of this position include: for Kingdom events: staff and manage information point out of Heralds Point, staff and manage town cries. Store, transport, and arrange set-up & pack-down of Heralds Point to all Kingdom events, specifically: Crown Tourneys (Spring, June, Fall), Beltane, and Purgatorio Coronations in coordination with Green Cloak. Additionally, for West v. An-Tir War every other year when the Host of the war is The West.
Green Banner (Aasa): Sadly, with events cancelled for the foreseeable future, Green Banner and the Consultation Table have not been terribly active. She does continue to assist with consultation online as possible, and is familiarizing herself with the book resources provided by her most excellent predecessor.
Green Banner can neither confirm nor deny any evening heraldic shenanigans that may or may not have occurred at certain virtual events. On an unrelated note, Her Majesty Vera has requested that the consultation table be open at Virtual June Crown & Virtual West-AnTir, and that Heraldic Hijinks ensue.
Golem (Hirsch): Not much going on, as with most of the Heraldic staff, due to the Pandemic fun. He added a feature to the Roster database to allow Vesper to send out mass emails to the College (or to select individuals to send it to). He realized that with some of the issues in the past with the roster letters that perhaps similar code might be used to avoid those issues and re-coded it. We’ll find out if that change worked once Vesper sends out new roster letters. Tests on small numbers of heralds worked. Thanks to everyone who put up with the testing and provided feedback.
Not much to say about Court reports except to remind our Court Heralds that Virtual Courts are real courts and court reports do need to be done for them as usual.
The usual reminder that if you find a problem on the Heralds website, the Awards List, etc., please let him know, as he cannot fix things he doesn’t know anything about.
ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business
GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTSFacebook Page: The West Kingdom Heralds' have their own page on Facebook, announcements, help with consultation, and more are often done there:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/302970543102065/
MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. NOTE that we are only using this for announcements and we may eventually phase it out. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
There are also individual mailing lists on Yahoo for the Principalities, but the traffic has gone to announcements only, and again these may be phased out in preference to the Facebook page noted above. Details can be found at the bottom of this page: I Need to Contact a Kingdom or Principality Herald
ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.
BRACHET MEETINGS
Contact brachet@heralds.westkingdom.org for external commenting participation. A central Cynagua external commenting meeting may begin soon, so watch this space!
EXCERPTS FROM THE LOARS
The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.January, 2020 LoAR (printed March 22, 2020) (West - October 28, 2019 LoI)
Cover Letter
Commendations to Commenters
From Wreath: Commendations to Sir Kean de Lacy, Brachet Herald, who has been stepping up in recent months and providing consistent and useful commentary.
We don't normally cite this section of the LoAR, but since this was about one of our own ...
From Pelican: The Gaelic Given Name Róisín
By precedent, the Gaelic given name Róisín was not registerable because we had no evidence of its use in period. [Róis ni Brian, 4/2007 LoAR, A-Caid] In commentary on this month's submissions, Brían dorcha ua Conaill made a convincing argument for how Róisín could be constructed in period.
Róis was a Gaelic feminine name in the 15th and 16th centuries. During the same period, we have evidence of the Gaelic suffix -ín being appended to existing names to create diminutive forms. This suffix was applied both to names that originally existed in Gaelic and to Gaelic names that were adapted from English, such as Seoin/Sean which became Seoinín. In addition, Brian provided data showing that -ín and its antecedent forms historically were used to create diminutives for masculine and feminine nouns, not just names.
Róisín also potentially could be the Gaelic root of the attested Anglicized Irish feminine name Rosina, found in the Fiants of Edward VI.
Accordingly, we hereby overturn the April 2007 precedent and all other precedents barring the registration of Róisín as undocumented. Beginning with this month's letter, this name can be registered as a 15th-16th century Gaelic feminine name.
From Laurel: Support Requirements for Hamlets
On the April 2018 Cover Letter, we set forth the requirements for registration of names and badges for Hamlets. Among those requirements is a petition of support. The exact form of that petition of support was left unclear.
For all Hamlet names or badges submitted after the publication date of this letter, we will require a petition of support signed by at least three individuals: (1) the Seneschal of the group sponsoring the Hamlet; (2) the designated contact person for the Hamlet; and (3) at least one person who resides within the Hamlet. As with other petitions of support, these individuals must sign with their legal names as well as providing their SCA names. The persons residing within the Hamlet do not need to be members of the Society in order to sign the petition in that capacity. The petition of support must be dated on the petition itself. Dating the submission form is not sufficient.
If the name and the badge are submitted at the same time, the petition of support should use the following language:
"[Society branch name of Sponsoring Group] is the sponsor of the Hamlet of [Submitted Name]. As Seneschal of [Society branch name of Sponsoring Group] and members living within the proposed Hamlet, we, the undersigned, affirm that we approve the submission of the Hamlet branch name [Submitted Name] and badge [blazon], pictured below."
If the name and badge are submitted separately, use the appropriate parts of this language.
We ask Palimpsest to update the Administrative Handbook, Appendix D - Suggested Standard Form Letters.
From Wreath: Hexagons in Japanese Heraldry
Two submissions were pended in August 2019 to look into the use of voided/fimbriated hexagons in period Mon. In O-umajirushi and Daibukon, we find stylized hexagons representing tortoise-shell plates as early as the Kamakura period, always charged, appearing singly or triply one and two. The plates are detailed with one or more concentric hexagon outlines (usually two), which differentiate them from hexagons in the same way that the details of a moon in her plenitude identify it as blazonably distinct from a plate.
Examples of tortoise-shell plates appear on pages xxiv, xxv, and 214 of O-umajirushi, and pages 16 and 20 of Daibukon.
Color depictions of Mon are exceedingly rare, as most manuscripts have tinctureless depictions. The two examples found in our research were the kimono of Naoe Kanetsugu, found on page xxxiii of O-umajirushi, and the fukinuki and tsukaiban of Sakai Shigezumi. In the former, featuring three tortoise-shell plates, the innermost hexagon of each plate is the same tincture as the field, while the two surrounding hexagons are of a contrasting tincture. The chasing on the contrasted portions of the charge distinguish them as tortoise-shell plates. In the latter, a single tortoise-shell plate charged with a contrasting five-petaled flower is a solid hexagon with a single line of chasing; given the size of the hexagon there's almost no way a second outline would be possible.
There are two examples of octagon enclosures in O-umajirushi, both with the kanji "san" (meaning 'three') and both with a contrasting outline surrounding an interior the same tincture as the field. According to Kiho, this is "an oshiki , a wooden tray used to make offerings to Shint{o-} gods. The three character is a reference to the name of the {O-}mishima Shrine, which literally means 'Great Three Islands Shrine.'" This therefore appears to be an entirely distinct charge from a tortoise-shell plate, and the expectations for defining features are different.
The chased interior hexagons are a defining feature of a tortoise-shell plate, just as the face of a moon in her plenitude or the walls of a labyrinth define the charges as distinct from a roundel. Tortoise-shell plates are always charged. Use of tortoise-shell plates with an outer edge that contrasts with both the field and the interior will only be accepted if they are in groups of three, arranged one and two.
From Wreath: My Little Pony
This month we were asked to consider (Fieldless) A unicorn argent charged on the haunch with three lozenges one and two azure. Many commenters recognized this as an obtrusive reference to the character Rarity from the animated television program My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, and all commenters recognized this as a character from the My Little Pony (MLP) franchise.
In the universe of MLP, each pony bears a distinctive mark on its hindquarters. Known as a "cutie mark," this functions as the equivalent to heraldry or a logo. In the current series, Rarity is a main character, a white unicorn who bears three lozenges on her rump. While the current submission doesn't feature Rarity's purple mane and tail, such details are considered artistic license; the lozenges unmistakably identify the charge as Rarity, and pull the observer kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
Even if the particular tincture of the primary charge and the choice of tertiary charges didn't match a particular character in the franchise, the placement of the cutie mark on the haunch of a horse, unicorn, or pegasus is a pattern that unmistakably reminds people of MLP. The practice has not been found in period, as most charged animate charges are charged on the breast or midsection. Therefore, unless documentation is provided, charging a creature on the haunch will be considered obtrusively modern and disallowed.
West Acceptances - January LoAR
none
West Returns - January LoAR
none
West Pended Items - January LoAR
Hirsch von Henford. Acceptance of transfer of Heraldic title Golden Stag Herald from East, Kingdom of the.This matter is pended until the associated transfer, currently on the East Letter of Intent dated January 31, 2020, appears on a Letter of Acceptances and Returns. All of the other requirements set forth in the March 2015 Cover Letter for transfer of a heraldic title from an SCA Kingdom to an individual have been satisfied.
This was item 1 on the West letter of October 28, 2019.
February, 2020 LoAR (printed April 14, 2020) (West - November 30, 2019 LoI)
Cover Letter
From Laurel: Virtual KWHSS 2020
As you've doubtless already heard, Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium for 2020 has been cancelled as a face to face event due to the COVID-19 global pandemic. We were so looking forward to meeting in Lochac -- but we'll have to settle for seeing each other virtually instead. The details of a virtual event, included classes, meetings, and the traditional roadshow, will be announced shortly -- keep your eyes on https://kwhss.lochac.sca.org/ for details and we'll pass them along as we get them.
We want to thank the event team for their hard work in organizing this international event and translating between Lochac and the Laurel office. It's been a learning experience for me as I've learned a lot of interkingdom anthropology but also made new friends. We're looking forward to the virtual event and all that will go with it.
Given the many limitations on the ability of hotels to respond to our request for proposals and our ability to visit them, we're extending the deadline for 2021 KWHSS bids to September 1. We know it will make planning harder, but we see little alternative when events are not happening and many people working from home. Please feel free to reach out for assistance or to ask questions.
From Wreath: Migrant -- This Bird Has Flown
This month, we were asked to consider a submission with an eagle in a migrant posture. The posture of migrant for birds carries a step from period practice because there is no documentation for it in period as a heraldic posture. It is very similar to the well-documented posture displayed, except that the feet are tucked out of sight, the head faces to chief rather than to dexter or sinister, and the viewer sees back of the bird rather than the breast. Each of these changes hinder identification of the type of bird from the viewer, as most identifying features (shape of the beak and any cresting on the head, size and shape of the feet and length of the legs, and conspicuous breast plumage) are all obscured.
Over the last few years, we have considered discontinuing individual postures and orientations that carry a step from period practice due to lack of documentation, including winged quadrupeds displayed and wolves' heads ululant. In these cases, the motivating factor was that use of the posture was causing issues of identification for the charge or its orientation, whether it was the forelimbs of the dragon frequently overlapping the wings and the belly being depicted in trian posture, or ululant wolf's heads blurring the distinction between fesswise, bendwise, and palewise. Migrant runs into a similar issue.
Therefore, given that the differences between migrant and any other bird posture with displayed wings only serve to obscure the identity of the charge, use of the migrant posture will be discontinued. Items with migrant postures appearing on external Letters of Intent published after June 30, 2020 will either be pended and redrawn in a period posture that approximates the original art or returned for further work.
From Palimpsest: Administrative Handbook Form Letters Update
We recently updated Appendix D of the Administrative Handbook to incorporate guidance from the January, May, and December 2019 Cover Letters. The new Appendix D incorporates cross-references between similar types of letters. We have also made the pronoun options consistent: "[his / her / their]" appears in all Appendix D form letters where such a choice is relevant.
From Pelican: Lingua Societatis Summary
We propose the adoption of the following new sections of SENA, replacing the existing NPN1A1, NPN1B (Designators), NPN1C2c (Lingua Anglica Allowance), NPN1C2f (Branch Name Allowance), and Appendix E:
NPN1A1
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Lingua Societatis, as used in the following rules, allows the translation of certain elements of a name into a modern language. The modern languages that may be used under lingua Societatis vary depending on the location of the submitter. Standard modern English is always an option for lingua Societatis translations.
Individual submitters may also use lingua Societatis translations in the modern language of their country of residence, as determined by the address listed on the submission form. The language of the submitter's country of residence is not limited to language(s) designated by that country as an "official" language. Multiple factors may be considered to determine whether a particular language is the "language of the submitter's country of residence," including but not limited to the language(s) used by the local SCA groups to hold business meetings, the language(s) spoken by the local SCA groups in court or at events, the language(s) in which reports, newspapers and media are published within the local area, and the percentage of the population that speaks the particular language.
If the submitter is a branch, in addition to standard modern English, it may use lingua Societatis translations in the modern language of a country or countries within that branch's territory. The branch's modern language is not limited to language(s) designated as "official" national languages. As in the case of individuals, multiple factors may be considered to determine whether a particular language qualifies for use under lingua Societatis, including but not limited to the language(s) used by the branch to hold business meetings, the language(s) spoken by members of the branch in court or at events, the language(s) in which reports, newspapers and media are published within the local area, the percentage of the branch's members that speaks the particular language, and the percentage of the general population within the branch's territory speaking that language.
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NPN1B
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B. Designators: The designators which may be used are determined by the type of non-personal name submission. In general, if the lingua Anglica form of a designator is used, the prepositions and articles which join the designator to the substantive element will also take the lingua Anglica form. Lingua Anglica allows English translations of certain elements; it is discussed in greater detail in C.2.c below.
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B. Designators: The designators which may be used are determined by the type of non-personal name submission. In general, if the lingua Societatis form of a designator is used, any prepositions and articles which join the designator to the substantive element must be in the language of the designator. Lingua Societatis is discussed in greater detail in A.1 above and in C.2.c below.
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B. Designators: The designators which may be used are determined by the type of
non-personal name submission. In general, if the lingua Anglicathe will also take the lingua Anglica formAnglicaallows English translations of certain elements; it
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NPN1B1
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1. Branch Designators: The designators for branches (local SCA groups) are fixed by the Governing Documents. The list may be found in Appendix E of this document. These designators are considered to be compatible with any place name construction. This is true whether or not period forms can be found with such a designator. Shires are not limited to the forms of English shires, nor baronies to the kinds of names found for baronies in period. In addition, each type of branch may be registered with other designators suitable for that branch type. A college may be named following the pattern of medieval colleges. These designators may take the lingua Anglica form, using the form Designator of X regardless of the language of the substantive phrase. Alternately, a translation for the appropriate type of branch may be proposed. A list of translations that have been registered can be found in Appendix E.
In general, changes of status for a branch, such as changing from shire to barony, do not need to be submitted. The Laurel office does not track those changes in status (that being a duty of the Seneschal and Board of Directors). However, it will acknowledge them when a new submission is made. The exception is when a branch wants the approval of a new alternate form of the branch designator, such as a non-English form. Such approval requires Laurel approval, but is an administrative action (which does not require fees) and does not delay the change in status.
As discussed in GP.3.B, we only allow non-personal names from locations beyond Europe when the entity in question could have traveled to Europe. As branches could not have so traveled, designators for branch names may only be in languages used in medieval and Renaissance Europe.
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1. Branch Designators: The standard English designators for branches (local SCA groups) are established by the Governing Documents. The list may be found in Appendix E of this document. These designators are considered to be compatible with any place name construction. This is true whether or not period forms can be found with such a designator. Shires are not limited to the forms of English shires, nor baronies to the kinds of names found for baronies in period. In addition, each type of branch may be registered with other designators suitable for that branch type. In particular, a college may be named following the pattern of medieval colleges.
The standard English designators may be used in the lingua Societatis form Designator of X regardless of the language of the substantive phrase. Similarly, following the guidelines in NPN.1.A, a lingua Societatis translation of a standard English designator may be used, together with any appropriate prepositions, regardless of the language of the substantive phrase. Translations of the designator for the appropriate branch type into a medieval language may also be used; however, in this case, the documented form of the designator should be consistent in language with the substantive phrase. A list of the standard English designators and some previously registered translations can be found in Appendix E.
In general, changes of status for a branch, such as changing from shire to barony, do not need to be submitted. The Laurel office does not track those changes in status (that being a duty of the Seneschal and Board of Directors). However, it will acknowledge them when a new submission is made. The exception is when a branch wants the approval of a new alternate form of the branch designator, such as a newly documented medieval spelling of the designator. Such approval requires Laurel approval, but is an administrative action (which does not require fees) and does not delay the change in status.
As discussed in GP.3.B, we only allow non-personal names from locations beyond Europe when the entity in question could have traveled to Europe. As branches could not have so traveled, designators for branch names may only be in languages used in medieval and Renaissance Europe or in modern, lingua Societatis forms.
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1. Branch Designators: The standard English designators for branches
(local SCA groups) are fixed A colleges. These designators may
take
The standard English designators may be used in the lingua
Anglicaform,
using the Alternately, a for
the of branch may be proposed. that
have been registered
In general, changes of status for a branch, such as changing from shire to barony, do
not need to be submitted. The Laurel office does not track those changes in status (that being
a duty of the Seneschal and Board of Directors). However, it will acknowledge them when a
new submission is made. The exception is when a branch wants the approval of a new alternate
form of the branch designator, such as a non-English form.
As discussed in GP.3.B, we only allow non-personal names from locations beyond Europe when the entity in question could have traveled to Europe. As branches could not have so traveled, designators for branch names may only be in languages used in medieval and Renaissance Europe or in modern, lingua Societatis forms.
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NPN1B2
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2. Order and Award Designators: The designators for order names must follow a documented pattern for medieval order names. The standard designators are Order and Award. Any pattern suitable for one such designator is suitable for the other. These designators may take the lingua Anglica form, using the forms above regardless of the language of the substantive phrase. Alternately, they may take the language of the substantive element. A list of some translations of these designators is listed in Appendix E. Documenting a designator for an order name does not show it is appropriate for household names, and documenting a designator for household names does not show it is appropriate for orders.
For example, either Order of the Levrier or Ordre du Levrier is registerable for the meaning 'order of the hound', but Order du Levrier and Ordre of the Levrier are not; in each one, the preposition and article do not match the language of the designator.
For example, Order of the Levrier is registerable as an order name, but not as a household name. On the other hand, Galeón San Pedro y San Philippe is registerable as a household name (for a group of sailors), but not as an order name.
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2. Order and Award Designators: The designators for order names must follow a documented pattern for medieval order names. The standard English designators are Order and Award. Any pattern suitable for one such designator is suitable for the other. These designators may be used as a lingua Societatis form, regardless of the language of the substantive phrase. Similarly, following the guidelines in NPN.1.A, a lingua Societatis translation of Order or Award may be used, together with any appropriate prepositions, regardless of the language of the substantive phrase. Alternatively, designators may take the language of the substantive element. A list of some translations of these designators is listed in Appendix E. Documenting a designator for an order name does not show it is appropriate for household names, and documenting a designator for household names does not show it is appropriate for orders.
For example, either Order of the Levrier or Ordre du Levrier is registerable for the meaning 'order of the hound', but Order du Levrier and Ordre of the Levrier are not; in each one, the preposition and article do not match the language of the designator.
For example, Order of the Levrier is registerable as an order name, but not as a household name. On the other hand, Galeón San Pedro y San Philippe is registerable as a household name (for a group of sailors), but not as an order name.
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2. Order and Award Designators: The designators for order names must follow a
documented pattern for medieval order names. The standard English designators
are Order and Award. Any pattern suitable for one such designator is suitable for
the other. These designators may take theAnglicausing
the forms above standard English forms,Alternately, they
For example, either Order of the Levrier or Ordre du Levrier is registerable for the meaning 'order of the hound', but Order du Levrier and Ordre of the Levrier are not; in each one, the preposition and article do not match the language of the designator.
For example, Order of the Levrier is registerable as an order name, but not as a household name. On the other hand, Galeón San Pedro y San Philippe is registerable as a household name (for a group of sailors), but not as an order name.
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NPN1B3
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3. Household and Association Names: The designators for household names must be documented as a form describing a group of people in a particular culture. It must be compatible with the substantive element in terms of content and style. There is no standard designator which is considered compatible with all types of names for groups of people.
Several kinds of groups of people have served as models for household names. They include a noble household, a military unit, a guild, a group of people associated with an inn or tenement house, a university or school (noting that the word college is reserved for branches), clans, and an organized group of musicians or actors. Designators may be registered in the original language or may take the lingua Anglica form. Suitable substantive elements (like simple descriptions) may take the lingua Anglica form as well. Documenting a designator for an order name does not show it is appropriate for household names, and documenting a designator for household names does not show it is appropriate for orders.
For example, either Compagnia di Santa Lucia or Company of Santa Lucia is registerable for the meaning 'company of Saint Lucia', but Company di Santa Lucia and Compagnia of Santa Lucia are not; in each one, the preposition and article do not match the language of the designator.
For example, Galeón San Pedro y San Philippe is registerable as a household name (for a group of sailors), but not as an order name. On the other hand, Order of San Philippe is registerable as an award or order name, but not a household name.
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3. Household and Association Names: The designators for household names must be documented as a form describing a group of people in a particular culture. It must be compatible with the substantive element in terms of content and style. There is no standard designator which is considered compatible with all types of names for groups of people.
Several kinds of groups of people have served as models for household names. They include a noble household, a military unit, a guild, a group of people associated with an inn or tenement house, a university or school (noting that the word college is reserved for branches), clans, and an organized group of musicians or actors. Designators may be registered in the original language or may take the lingua Societatis form. Suitable substantive elements (such as simple descriptions) may take the lingua Societatis form as well. Documenting a designator for an order name does not show it is appropriate for household names, and documenting a designator for household names does not show it is appropriate for orders.
For example, either Compagnia di Santa Lucia or Company of Santa Lucia is registerable for the meaning 'company of Saint Lucia', but Company di Santa Lucia and Compagnia of Santa Lucia are not; in each one, the preposition and article do not match the language of the designator.
For example, Galeón San Pedro y San Philippe is registerable as a household name (for a group of sailors), but not as an order name. On the other hand, Order of San Philippe is registerable as an award or order name, but not a household name.
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3. Household and Association Names: The designators for household names must be documented as a form describing a group of people in a particular culture. It must be compatible with the substantive element in terms of content and style. There is no standard designator which is considered compatible with all types of names for groups of people.
Several kinds of groups of people have served as models for household names. They include a noble household, a military unit, a guild, a group of people associated with an inn or tenement house, a university or school (noting that the word college is reserved for branches), clans, and an organized group of musicians or actors. Designators may be registered in the original language or may take the lingua AnglicaAnglica
For example, either Compagnia di Santa Lucia or Company of Santa Lucia is registerable for the meaning 'company of Saint Lucia', but Company di Santa Lucia and Compagnia of Santa Lucia are not; in each one, the preposition and article do not match the language of the designator.
For example, Galeón San Pedro y San Philippe is registerable as a household name (for a group of sailors), but not as an order name. On the other hand, Order of San Philippe is registerable as an award or order name, but not a household name.
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4. Heraldic Titles: The designators for heraldic titles must follow a documented pattern for heraldic titles. The standard terms for heraldic titles for kingdoms and local branches are Herald and Pursuivant. Any pattern suitable for one such designator is suitable for the other. These designators may take the lingua Anglica form, using the forms above regardless of the language of the substantive phrase, or they may take the language of the substantive element. The designator Principal Herald is restricted to the chief herald of a kingdom. The designator King/Queen/Sovereign of Arms is restricted to the Laurel office. In general, changes of designator, for example from pursuivant to herald, do not need to be submitted to the Laurel office; if submitted, they are administrative actions, which do not require fees.
For example, a heraldic title based on the German placename Funffprun could be Funffprun Herold or Funffprun Herald, as Herold is found as a German term for heralds, but it could not be Funffprun Herault, as Herault is a French term for heralds.
As discussed in GP.3.B, we do not register heraldic titles in languages from cultures that did not use heraldic titles. This applies to both the designator and the substantive elements of such heraldic titles.
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4. Heraldic Titles: The designators for heraldic titles must follow a documented pattern for heraldic titles. In English, the standard lingua Societatis terms for heraldic titles for kingdoms and local branches are Herald and Pursuivant. Any pattern suitable for one such designator is suitable for the other. These designators may take a lingua Societatis form, or they may take the language of the substantive element. The designator Principal Herald and its translations are restricted to the chief herald of a kingdom. The designator King/Queen/Sovereign of Arms and its translations are restricted to the Laurel office. In general, changes of designator, for example from Pursuivant to Herald, do not need to be submitted to the Laurel office; if submitted, they are administrative actions, which do not require fees.
For example, the Kingdom of the West could register a heraldic title based on the German placename Funffprun either in the entirely German form Funffprun Herold or in the lingua Societatis form Funffprun Herald. However, the West could not register Funffprun Herault, as Herault is a French term for heralds. On the other hand, because French is one of the national languages of Canada, the Kingdom of Ealdormere could register Funffprun Herault with a French designator by using Lingua Societatis.
As discussed in GP.3.B, we do not register heraldic titles in languages from cultures that did not use heraldic titles. This applies to both the designator and the substantive elements of such heraldic titles.
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4. Heraldic Titles: The designators for heraldic titles must follow a documented pattern for heraldic titles. The the Anglicausing the forms above regardless of the language of the substantive phrase, is is pursuivant to herald,
could be Heroldfound as a German heralds, but it not be , as Herault is term for heralds.
As discussed in GP.3.B, we do not register heraldic titles in languages from cultures that did not use heraldic titles. This applies to both the designator and the substantive elements of such heraldic titles.
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c. Lingua Anglica Allowance: We also allow the registration of translations of attested and constructed household names, heraldic titles, and order names into standard modern English, which we call the lingua Anglica rule. We allow this because the meanings of these names would have been clear to the speakers of these languages, but may be unclear to modern speakers. The translation must be a literal, plausible and complete translation. Under no circumstances will translations of the meanings of given names or placenames be registerable under this rule.
For example, Blanche Sanglier Pursuivant can be translated as White Boar Pursuivant, but not White Sanglier Pursuivant, Snowy Boar Pursuivant, or White Piggy Pursuivant.
For example, the Spanish byname de Castilla may be translated as of Castile. The Arabic byname al-Dimashqi may be translated as of Damascus or the Damascene. However, while Cairo is derived from a word which means "the victorious", its lingua Anglica form is of Cairo, not of The Victorious, as "The Victorious" is a translation of the meaning.
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c. Lingua Societatis Allowance: We also allow the registration of translations of attested and constructed household names, heraldic titles, and order names into standard modern languages appropriate to the submitting individual or branch, as described in NPN.1.A. We allow this because the meanings of these names would have been clear to the speakers of these languages, but may be unclear to modern speakers. The translation must be a literal, plausible and complete translation. Under no circumstances will translations of the meanings of given names or placenames be registerable under this rule.
For example, Blanche Sanglier Herald can be translated into standard modern English as White Boar Herald, but not White Sanglier Herald, Snowy Boar Herald, or White Piggy Herald. A barony located in the Netherlands could register the modern Dutch form Witte Everzwijn Heraut, using the lingua Societatis rules for Dutch.
For example, the Spanish byname de Castilla may be translated as of Castile. The Arabic byname al-Dimashqi may be translated as of Damascus or the Damascene. However, while Cairo is derived from a word which means "the victorious", its lingua Societatis form in English is of Cairo, not of The Victorious, as "The Victorious" is a translation of the meaning.
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c. Lingua AnglicaEnglish, which we call the lingua Anglica rule. rule.
For example, Blanche Sanglier PursuivantPursuivantPursuivantPursuivantPursuivant
For example, the Spanish byname de Castilla may be translated as of Castile. The Arabic byname al-Dimashqi may be translated as of Damascus or the Damascene. However, while Cairo is derived from a word which means "the victorious", its lingua Anglica
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f. Branch Name Allowance: Name phrases may be created from the registered forms of SCA branches. Only the exact registered form of the branch name may be used, in the lingua Anglica form "of Branchname". Translated forms will not be registered under this allowance.
For example, we would allow the forms of the East or of Fontaine dans Sable, as these are the expected lingua Anglica forms. However, this would not allow von Osten as a German translation of "of the East", even if the rest of the submission was in German. Similarly, it would not allow de la Fontaine dans Sable as a fully French version of "of Fontaine dans Sable", even though the branch name is French. That is, we would allow Ordre du Levrier of Fontaine dans Sable or Order of the Levrier of Fontaine dans Sable, but we would not allow Ordre du Levrier de la Fontaine dans Sable under this rule, as this is not the lingua Anglica form of the branch name, even though it matches the intended origin of the submission. If Fontaine dans Sable can also documented as an attested or constructed French name, de Fontaine dans Sable could be used in forming a fully French order name; however that would not be through the use of the branch name allowance. For example, we would not allow of the Midrealm, as this is not the registered form of the Kingdom of the Middle.
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f. Branch Name Allowance: Name phrases may be created from the registered forms of SCA branches. The name phrase must use a lingua Societatis form meaning 'of Branchname' or 'from Branchname'. In English, the usual lingua Societatis form incorporating an SCA branch name is 'of Branchname'.
Name phrases should stay as close to the exact registered name of the branch as possible, while obeying the grammatical requirements of the language used for lingua Societatis. Translated forms based on the meaning of branch names will not be registered under this allowance, even if the translated form matches the intended origin of the submission or of the branch.
For example, we would allow the forms of the East or of Fontaine dans Sable, as these are the expected lingua Societatis forms in English. However, this rule would not allow the Kingdom of the East to use von Osten as a German translation of "of the East", even if the rest of the submission was in German. Similarly, although the branch name Fontaine dans Sable is French, the branch in question is located in the United States. Thus, the branch could not use lingua Societatis to register the phrase de la Fontaine dans Sable as a fully French version of "of Fontaine dans Sable". That is, the branch could use Ordre du Levrier of Fontaine dans Sable or Order of the Levrier of Fontaine dans Sable, but it could not justify Ordre du Levrier de la Fontaine dans Sable under this rule, as this is not the lingua Societatis form of the branch name, even though it matches the intended origin of the submission. If Fontaine dans Sable can also be documented as an attested or constructed French name, de Fontaine dans Sable could be used in forming a fully French order name; however that would not be through the use of the branch name allowance.
For example, the branch of Aarnimetsä in Finland could register Aarnimetsän Ordre du Levrier, transforming the branch name according to the rules of modern Finnish grammar.
For example, we would not allow of the Midrealm, as Midrealm is not the registered form of the Kingdom of the Middle.
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f. Branch Name Allowance: Name phrases may be created from the registered forms of SCA branches. Only
Name phrases should stay as close to the exact registered form of the branch name may be used, in the lingua Anglica form "of Branchname". allowance.
For example, we would allow the forms of the East or of Fontaine dans Sable, as these are the expected lingua Anglica.it would not allow Sable", even though the branch name is French. we would allow we would not allow Anglicaallowance.
For example, the branch of Aarnimetsä in Finland could register Aarnimetsän Ordre du Levrier, transforming the branch name according to the rules of modern Finnish grammar.
For example, we would not allow of the Midrealm, as this
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Appendix E
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Any modern English language designator in the following lists may be used as a lingua Societatis designator.
to the beginning of Appendix E.
Throughout Appendix E, replace "English language and the lingua Anglica" or "English and lingua Anglica" by "modern English language".
West Acceptances - February LoAR
Akilina Lukasovna. Name.Álfrún Signesdóttir. Name. Bernadette of Eskalya. Device. Per pale argent and azure, three comets counterchanged.The submitter's previous name, Kalida Rudaya, is retained as an alternate name.
Caterina La Chate. Name.This device was pended for redraw on the October 2019 LoAR.
Christopher of Ephesus. Device. Gules, a New World pineapple Or leaved vert, on a chief Or three goblets vert.This name combines an Italian given name with a French byname, an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C.
Draven Ulfsson. Name and device. Sable, a wolf's head erased argent, on a chief Or three dunghill cocks gules.There is a step from period practice for the use of a New World pineapple.
Elena of Ashborne. Name and device. Vert, in pale a tree blasted argent issuant from a fountain. Eva Hundsdotter. Device change. Per pall inverted azure, vert, and Or, in pale a dog couchant argent and a quatrefoil knot sable.Draven is the submitter's legal given name.
The submitter requested authenticity for "Norse" culture. This request was not summarized on the Letter of Intent. Fortunately, Lilie Pantheon identified the authenticity request during commentary, allowing sufficient time for research. Because we were unable to find any evidence of the given name in Old Norse or any other Scandinavian language and thus must rely on the Legal Name Allowance, this name is not authentic.
Jeffery Whitehart. Name and device. Argent, in saltire a double-bitted axe and an arrow inverted, on a chief sable three apples slipped and leaved Or.The submitter's previous device, Or, three pommes each charged with a quatrefoil knot argent, a chief indented sable, is retained as a badge.
Lyra of the Mists. Name and device. Azure estencely, an otter statant and a base wavy argent.Nice 16th century English name!
Músa-Valdís Roðbertsdóttir. Device. Purpure, a mouse rampant and in canton a crescent argent. Persephone Whitehart. Name.The Principality of the Mists is the registered name of an SCA branch.
Phoenix Dragoslav. Name and device. Quarterly azure and Or, a skull counterchanged.Nice late 16th century English name!
Roisin Corby. Name and device. Per pale purpure and sable, on a sun Or a raven sable, in base a rose per pale argent and Or.Phoenix is the submitter's legal middle name.
Artist's note: Please color the cavities of the skull in the same tincture of the skull itself.
Sean O'Farrel. Name (see RETURNS for device).Last month we ruled that the Gaelic feminine given name Roisin is registerable. [Róisin Caomhánach, 01/2020 LoAR, A-Atlantia].
This name combines a Gaelic given name with an English byname, an acceptable lingual mix under Appendix C.
Artist's note: Please draw the sun solid, obscuring the line of division.
Seisyll LeStrange of Strangeholt. Device change. Per chevron engrailed sable and argent, two estoiles Or and a sea-dragon purpure.Sean was documented in the Letter of Intent as the submitter's legal given name. However, he does not need to rely on the Legal Name Allowance as Sean is also found as an Anglicized Irish male given name dated to 1601 in "Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents" by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (https://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Masculine.shtml).
Nice Anglicized Irish name for circa 1600!
Sibyl the Disobedient. Name (see RETURNS for device).The submitter's previous device, Lozengy argent and pean, a bat-winged horse, tusked as a boar, rampant to sinister, wings elevated and addorsed, gules, is released.
Artist's note: Please draw the engrailing deeper and more pronounced.
Talan Penkarou. Device change. Per bend sinister vert and azure, a stag's head erased contourny argent attired Or and a wolf's head erased argent.The byname the Disobedient follows the pattern of other English surnames referring to disorderly, difficult or wicked persons, including the attested le Nuyouse ("displeasing, annoying, offensive; troublesome, difficult; painful, distressing"). Heralds at the Pelican decision meeting dated the term "disobedient" to Middle English, plausibly placing this name into the time period when such descriptive bynames were coined.
Tanaka Kamatari. Name change from Camber Eben.The submitter's previous device, Per pale azure and sable, a stag's head erased and in chief two attires, stumps to center argent, is released.
Zvezda Darii. Name and device. Per chevron purpure and argent, a compass star Or and a wolf sejant sable.Submitted as Taninaka no Kamatari, the name was not correctly constructed. First, the element no is used only with uji-type clan names, such as those found in p. 392 of Name Construction in Medieval Japan (2d ed.). It cannot be used with a constructed surname such as Taninaka. Second, Taninaka was not a valid construction from the cited kanji. With the submitter's permission, we have changed the name to Tanaka _ Kamatari, replacing the incorrectly constructed family name with an attested one and dropping the element no.
The submitter's previous name, Camber Eben, is retained as an alternate name.
Submitted as Zvezda Dar'ia doch' Bragina, the name was not correctly constructed because Zvezda is a male given name and the rest of the name used feminine forms. In Russian, the byname construction much match the gender of the given name. With the submitter's permission, we have changed the name to Zvedza Darii, using an unmarked masculine patronymic byname. Unmarked patronymics are registerable in Russian per the September 2007 Cover Letter.
There is a step from period practice for the use of a compass star.
West Returns - February LoAR
Sean O'Farrel. Device. Or, a wolf courant to sinister sable within an orle gules.Sibyl the Disobedient. Device. Argent, a coney sejant erect to sinister azure.This device is returned for conflict with the badge of Malcolm Leslie the Scot, Or, a Scottish terrier statant to sinister sable and a chief rayonny gules. There is a DC for changes to the secondary charge, but nothing for the difference between a Scottish terrier and a wolf and nothing (per SENA Appendix L) for the change from statant to courant.
This device is returned for conflict with the device of Hroswitha von Lippe, Quarterly sable and Or, a rabbit rampant contourny azure. There is a DC for change to the field, but nothing for change in posture from rampant to sejant erect.
In Service,
Edith of Swanesdale, PaL,
Matins Herald
SUBMISSONS – May (2020)
ITEMS SENT TO LAUREL
The submitter previously went by the unregistered name ‘Mongoose’.
The submitter cares about the sound (none noted) and the gender (male) of the name, and wrote in “15th-16th Century Ireland” under “CHANGE to be authentic for”, but did not mark either of these two boxes.
The West College requests help documenting this name, as we are not sure the provided sources are acceptable.
Críostóir - from LibraryIreland [https://www.libraryireland.com/names/men/criostoir-christopher.php]
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from the ‘Irish Annals transcriptions’ from CELT, from ‘Annals of the Four Masters Vol.
4, M1466.13’: p.1042 “ … Ro gabhadh dna don chur-sin, Criostoir Ploingcéd, & prioir
Tighe Muire ...”
And p. 1048 “M1467.15: Criostoir Ploingced, Piarus mac Piarais Dalatun, Semus Ócc mac Semais Dalatun, & mac Peitídigh an Muilinn Cirr .i. prioir an Muilinn Chiorr d'ecc don plaig.” [https://celt.ucc.ie//published/G100005D.html].
Mulryan - from the Surname Database: O’Mulryan (no dates) [https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Ryan]. From [https://www.libraryireland.com/] no specific link / reference included.
- the more Anglicized version of the byname, [http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnglicizedIrish/Masculine.shtml] has quite a few late 16th century examples of <O Mulrian> though largely not with the desired y spelling (ex: Mahowne roe O Mulrian, Owhin m'Rowrie O Mulrian, Dermod m'Owhine O Mulrian, Gilleduffe alias Shane O Mulrian, Gully Duffe m'Teig O Mulrian) but there is also a Mulrya and a couple O Ryan examples in the same article
The (language) name formation <given + byname> can be found in ???.
Armory:
Or, a mouse of India rampant azure within a serpent in annulo vorant of its tail vert.
Lozengy gules and argent, a gauntlet aversant issuant from dexter base sustaining a printer’s ball inverted sable - currently Badge, change to Device.
Per chevron raguly gules and Or, two bezants each charged with a closed book palewise reversed sable, and a tower gules - currently Device, to be retained as a Badge.
The submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes and cares about the meaning (James is my middle name, Smith of Son of the Smith), language and/or culture (Scottish Gaelic. Irish is also acceptable), sound (none noted), and gender (male) of the name.
James - from NCS “Index of Scots name found in ‘Dictionary of the Older Scottish Tongue’: James” by Sara L. Uckelman known in the SCA as Aryanhwy merch Catmael: James dd. 1434-1648 [].
MacGowan - from NCS “Index of Scots names found in ‘Dictionary of the Older Scottish Tongue’: MacGowan” by Sara L. Uckelman known in the SCA as Aryanhwy merch Catmael: Makgowne dd. 1602 [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/scots/dost/macgowan.html].
found in Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 index FamilySearch [http://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBK8-5LG]: Wm. Mcgowan, 19 Jul 1635.
NCS Reany & Wilson -- MakGowin 1526.
FamilySearch has Mareoun M'Gowen daughter of Fergus M'Gowen in 1646 (grey period) Scotland [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYG8-3S4]. C-batch.
Isabell Gowan daughter of John Gowan is from another grey period C-batch [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XBPY-35P] as is Agnes Gowan daughter of George Gowan [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XY2P-C8B].
The Scots name formation <given + marked patronymic> with the marked patronymic form ‘Mac’ is found in SENA Appendix A.
The submitter, present for the West Kingdom meeting, commented via chat: “if it needs to change to MacGowin or MakGowin or Mak/MacGowen, I'm fine with those changes as well.”
Armory:
Gyronny arrondi azure and argent, in pale a phoenix Or ermined gules rising from flames gules and an anvil Or.
(Fieldless) A lizard tergiant ermine.
Argent, in fess a mouse sejant erect contourny sable playing on a harp reversed proper. (current primary heraldry) -- change to a badge
Per pale sable and vert, a mouse sejant erect playing an Irish harp argent. (currently a badge) -- change to primary heraldry
Argent, semy of shamrocks vert, a mouse rampant sable maintaining an Irish harp Or stringed vert. (currently a badge) -- retain as a badge
Argent, in fess a brown rabbit head cabossed proper, in chief an annulet vert, on a chief sable three billets fesswise argent.
Per fess sable and vert, a basset hound statant and in chief three trefoils Or.
"Bassetz" are mentioned in the 1562 La Venerie de Iaques du Fouilloux. Used to hunt foxes and badgers.
[http://www.archive.org/stream/laveneriedejacqu00foui#page/236/mode/2up].
There is a Step From Period Practice for the specification of the dog breed.
Permission to Conflict: If considered a conflict, Teresa of Attilium (this submitter’s spouse) has provided a Letter of Permission to Conflict with her device: Per fess sable and argent, a basset hound statant and in chief three lilies Or.
Or, a wolf courant to sinister sable, a bordure compony argent and gules.
This is a resubmission from the armory returned on the February 2020 LoAR:
Device. Or, a wolf courant to sinister sable within an orle gules.
This device is returned for conflict with the badge of Malcolm Leslie the Scot, Or, a Scottish terrier statant to sinister sable and a chief rayonny gules. There is a DC for changes to the secondary charge, but nothing for the difference between a Scottish terrier and a wolf and nothing (per SENA Appendix L) for the change from statant to courant.
The submitter has removed the orle and added a bordure to clear the conflict.
The submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes, and cares about the language and/or culture (16th century Italian), and gender (male) of the name.
Tadio - from “15th & 16th Century Names from Trieste” by Andrea Hicks (Maridonna Benvenuti) Under "Masculine Given Names" - Tadio Francor, 1595 [https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/maridonna/trieste.html].
Farnese - from "The most illustrious Cardinal Farnese is calling me to Rome.." A. Caro, Lettere familiari, ed. A. Greco, Florence 1957-61, II, 317, pp. 48-49 (Civitanova, 14 October 1547) [https://documents.pub/document/patricia-rubinthe-private-chapelfarnese.html].
The Italian name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.
Armory:
Per pale azure and gules, a pale Or, overall a polypus argent mulletty sable.
Not a conflict: protected non-SCA arms for Andorra, Chad, and Rumania: "Per pale azure and gules, a pale Or." as the overall charge provides a DC and the mullets (tertiary) are a 2nd.
The overall charge can support a tertiary charge (the mullets) per SENA Appendix I.4.C “Tertiary Charge Group: A tertiary charge group is a charge or group of charges which are entirely on another charge and are not on the field themselves. Tertiary charges may be found on other types of charge groups, including an overall charge group, but not on maintained charges.”
Argent, in fess a serpent erect and a billhook bendwise sinister, in base a dagger inverted and on a chief triangular sable a dagger argent.
A serpent and a billhook may not be comparable when considering Unity of Orientation/Posture, per the July 2019 LoAR, “From Wreath: Unity of Orientation and Posture”: Which lists distinct charge groups: animate charges which includes serpents and inanimate charges which includes long charges
“Generally, charges in each of these categories are not comparable. Serpents cannot be rampant because they haven't the requisite limbs, while bears cannot be nowed because they are not long or flexible enough, so a bear rampant and a serpent nowed may be in the same charge group despite requiring different terms to describe their relative postures. A sun is a radially symmetrical charge that has no orientable top or bottom, while a spear is a long charge that has a definitive top, bottom, and angular orientation. Thus, a spear bendwise and a sun may be in the same charge group despite requiring a specified orientation for only one of the charges.” [http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2019/07/19-07cl.html#6]
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