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The March meeting was held at the home of Danaë FitzRoberts in Tracy, CA. Alizan De la Fontaine, Vesper; Edith of Swanesdale, Matins; Danaë FitzRoberts, PaL; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Astrið of Swansvale, PaL; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, Baldric; Frederick of Holland, PaL.
In remote attendance: Domamir vlatko Syn, Seawolf; Ari Ella; Green Cloak; Aasa Thorvaldsdottir, Green Banner; Na’arah bat Avraham, Pinnacle Pursuivant; Ommadan inigena Ru, Cornet; Siggi of Bearhaven, Rivenoak Pursuivant.
COLLEGE OF HERALDS MEETINGS
Heralds' Meetings for 2020: May 17, July 26, September 20, and November 15.
For 2021: January 10th (at Twelfth Night).
Meetings usually begin at 11:00 AM and will be held at the home of Danaë FitzRoberts unless
otherwise noted (see also:
When/Where Are the
Next Meetings?).
The DEADLINES for submission forms and documentation are: May 6, July 15, September 9, and November 4. Submission forms must be complete and received either via EMAIL or hardcopy by the deadline date at midnight to be considered at the next meeting (which is about 11 days later, except December due to holidays and the roadshow meeting prep time needed). If the forms are EMAILED, then payment must arrive by the meeting day. WALK-IN submissions will only be considered if there is time, but in most cases will be delayed until the next meeting so that each submission can be reviewed fully.
REPORTS
Vesper (Alizan): 2021 meeting dates need to be selected and submitted to the Seneschal for inclusion on the calendar. (Possibly: March 14, May 16, July 18, September 19, November 7, and January 9, 2022.)
Meetings have moved to a new location: the home of Danaë FitzRoberts in Tracy, California.
Vesper received the sealing wax shipment but misplaced her receipt! As soon as she gets a new one she will email it to the exchequer.
Vesper is working on a "bulletin banner" for use at Kingdom events. This will be a non-obtrusively-modern setup, to serve as a place to post copies of the event schedule and any additional information that would be disseminated in a Town Cry. It should make its debut soon.
The Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium, scheduled for July 2020 in Lochac, has been cancelled. The SCA College of Arms is looking into virtual options.
The silent heralds have chosen to separate themselves from the auspices of the College. They are now known as Muted Emissaries, operating under the Principality of Cynagua’s Accessibility and Inclusivity Officer. These Gentles have been encouraged to work with our court heralds to facilitate their participation and signing for courts. There have been discussions of them signing for tournaments but the logistics are still being reviewed.
The office of Green Trumpet Herald (town cry) remains vacant: volunteers are urgently sought. Any interested parties should contact Vesper with their resumes (herald@westkingdom.org).
Seawolf (Domamir): His report related to Spring Coronet.
Sable Swan (Moira): No report received.
Stellanordica (Bianca): No report received.
Exchequer (Domamir): The College remains solvent. Domesday report has been submitted and accepted by Kingdom Exchequer.
Matins (Edith): Deputy (Hannah): Submissions continue to get processed, including Wreath and Pelican both reaching out to offer alternatives in an attempt to avoid returns.
Palimpset has a Letter open for comments for the suggestion of increasing the allowed maximum number of registrations per individual from 6 names & 6 armory to 10 names and 10 armory. Please review and comment, if you feel so moved. Comments can be sent in via email.
Digital Storage has been approved and purchased. Watch for changes to the website, as the West will now accept digital-only forms (fees must still be mailed in or brought in-person to meetings).
Green Crown (Eilis): No report received.
Baldric (Gwenhwyfaer): She ventured down to Darkwood, was able to teach someone who travelled up from Tarnmist. The new recruit plans to work at an event soon!
Arts and Sciences will be in May, Collegium was moved from November to June. She is looking for people to teach a variety of heraldic classes at Collegium. Please reach out to Gwen to volunteer.
Brachet (Kean), Leveret (Ræv): Commenting continues to happen, and some consulting too.
The congratulations of the College to Kean, who was Commended by Wreath in the January 2020 LoAR Cover Letter: “From Wreath: Commendations to Sir Kean de Lacy, Brachet Herald, who has been stepping up in recent months and providing consistent and useful commentary.”
Green Cloak (Ari Ella): Much of her report related to Spring Crown. She is seeking a deputy successor. For further information on the position see http://heralds.westkingdom.org/SeniorStaffDescriptions/GreenCloak.php. Please send resumes to greencloak@heralds.westkingdom.org.
Green Trumpet (vacant): Deputy Support: Juliana of Sunset Shire. New Senior Staff position.
This position will oversee Town Cry (formerly called Duty Shout) and Heralds Point (information). If interested in this position, please contact Vesper.
The duties of this position include: for Kingdom events: staff and manage information point out of Heralds Point, staff and manage town cries. Store, transport, and arrange set-up & pack-down of Heralds Point to all Kingdom events, specifically: Crown Tourneys (Spring, June, Fall), Beltane, and Purgatorio Coronations in coordination with Green Cloak. Additionally, for West v. An-Tir War every other year when the Host of the war is The West.
Green Banner (Aasa): She has plans to attend events with the Table, and is looking into the cost of a tablet, so that the boxes of books are not always necessary.
Golem (Hirsch): He has heard nothing about the Heralds website, so assumes all is working well. Work continues on the Awards site, as always. There may be some outstanding Court reports, but most are coming in on-time and getting approved quickly.
Pinnacle (Na’arah): She would like to thank all the wonderful heralds that came and helped at White Shield. Specifically Gwenhwyfer, Ari Ella, Diana, Telynor, and Jared (who had no choice). And thanks to Flieg for the flags.
ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business
GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTSFacebook Page: The West Kingdom Heralds' have their own page on Facebook, announcements, help with consultation, and more are often done there:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/302970543102065/
MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. NOTE that we are only using this for announcements and we may eventually phase it out. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
There are also individual mailing lists on Yahoo for the Principalities, but the traffic has gone to announcements only, and again these may be phased out in preference to the Facebook page noted above. Details can be found at the bottom of this page: I Need to Contact a Kingdom or Principality Herald
ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.
BRACHET MEETINGS
Contact brachet@heralds.westkingdom.org for external commenting participation. A central Cynagua external commenting meeting may begin soon, so watch this space!
EXCERPTS FROM THE LOARS
The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.November 2019 LoAR (printed January 24, 2020) (West - No LOI)
Cover Letter
From Laurel: Call for Applications for Wreath Sovereign of Arms
Wreath is an unpaid position, currently requiring approximately 20 hours a week. Some knowledge of period heraldry is useful; knowledge of SCA heraldry is essential. The position requires considerable tact and patience, research and reasoning ability, a clear understanding of the Standards for Evaluation of Names and Armory and past Laurel rulings, the ability to write clearly and succinctly, the ability to work within tight deadlines and coordinate closely with Pelican, Laurel and other staff to produce a Laurel Letter of Acceptance and Return monthly, computer literacy and word processing skills, reliable e-mail and telephone access, and time and ability to travel. Given the current structure of the office, a high-speed internet connection is required.
Resumés must be sent electronically to Laurel at bids@heraldry.sca.org. Resumés must be received by April 1, 2020, with an expected start date of summer 2020, to be determined with the Laurel staff.
From Pelican: Household Names Referenced in Early Registrations
This month, we addressed a conflict call against a household name that had been referenced in connection with a badge registration in 1984, but apparently not "registered" at that time. The College's treatment of household names has not been consistent over time. There was a period in time when household names were not registered as distinct items but merely referenced in related armory registrations. This practice creates ambiguity when later household name submissions potentially conflict with merely "referenced" items. To resolve this ambiguity, both for this month's submission and for future submissions, as of the date of this Letter, all "referenced" household names prior to January 1987 are hereby considered to be registered. We ask Morsulus to update the database accordingly.
From Pelican: Considering Potential Changes to PN3C2
This month we were presented with the question of whether Úlfrún Bergsdóttir conflicts with the registered Úlfrún Biornsdóttir. Under PN3C2 as currently written, the two names conflict. PN3C2 states: "If a vowel and the consonant or group of consonants on one side of this vowel is different between the two names, we consider a syllable to be substantially changed." Further PN3C2 gives the following example:
Margerie Clutter is not substantially different in sound from Margery Catter, because the given names sound identical and, although the first syllables of the bynames are different, the cl and c groups of consonants share a sound and the other consonant group is identical.
During the Pelican decision meeting, there was a lengthy discussion of whether this result made sense. Therefore, we are pending the name for discussion of whether PN3C2 should be changed to allow a single syllable to be clear of conflict if both the vowel and any part of the consonant cluster on either side of the vowel is different. Please comment on this proposal under the item for Úlfrún Bergsdóttir in this month's Letter of Pend and Discussion.
From Pelican: Data from Genealogical Websites
Several requests have been made in commentary recently to prohibit reliance on data from ancestry.com and other genealogical sites such as findmypast. Other commenters have requested that we treat data from ancestry.com as presumptively acceptable, similar to how we treat names from the FamilySearch Historical Records. Neither of these suggestions is being adopted.
Certain batches of the FamilySearch Historical Records are treated as presumptively good documentation because they are compiled via a refereed extraction program. Batches compiled in this way (and thus presumptively acceptable as documentation) are those beginning with B, C, J, K, M (except M17 and M18), or P. Batches beginning with I are acceptable only on a case-by-case basis and depend on whether or not the individual microfilm extracted is a period record or not. Batches that are all digits, begin with M17 or M18, D, F, H, L, or T are not acceptable. Batch numbers not listed here are evaluated on a case by case basis.
The website ancestry.com currently uses a similar referred extract action program. Because that program started at a later date than that used by FamilySearch, more of the names appearing in ancestry.com's indices are questionable. Therefore, extracted names from ancestry.com are not acceptable documentation. However, ancestry.com remains useful because many of the indices refer directly to images of primary source period documents.
Scanned images of primary sources are acceptable documentation, even if they are accessed through sites such as ancestry.com or findmypast. Images from post-period sources are evaluated in the same way as any other source, such as academic articles, and may be acceptable on a case-by-case basis.
Extracted data from other genealogical sites, for which we have no information on their extraction methodology or organization, are not acceptable name documentation. User-submitted records from FamilySearch, ancestry.com or other genealogical sites are not acceptable documentation unless they have links to scanned primary source documents. Even in that case, the scanned documents themselves, not the record on the website, is the documentation.
We thank Jeanne Marie Noir Licorne for her assistance with this item.
From Pelican: Anglo-Norman Equivalent Titles
In her July 2, 2019 Letter, Palimpsest proposed a series of equivalent titles in the Anglo-Norman dialect, based on research work done by Maister Iago ab Adam. We hereby accept the following as official alternate titles and direct Palimpsest to update the List of Alternate Titles (under both the English and French language groups) accordingly.
From Pelican: Gender and Name Forms
Although the present individual name submission forms contain check boxes for the gender of the submitter, heralds and submitters should know that we do not need that information to process a name submission. If submitters would rather not provide that information, they do not have to do so.
For the purposes of grammar and name construction, however, it's very helpful to know the desired gender of the name being submitted (which does not have to match the gender of the submitter). The current options are for male, female and "don't care." If the submitter explicitly desires a gender neutral name (as opposed to "doesn't care") please so state in the body of the documentation and we will do our best to document such a form.
From Pelican and Morsulus: Two new characters {D_} and {Sh_}
This month we registered the Arabic name M{a-}lik ibn {Dj_}inn{i-} al-{Sh_}ayb{a-}n{i-}. The Encyclopedia of Islam transliteration scheme required the creation of Da'ud notation for two new characters.
{Dj_} is "Dj" with an underline that indicates that these represent one Arabic letter. In other transliterations, it is {Gv}. {dj_} is the lower case version of the same character.
{Sh_} is "Sh" with an underline that indicates that these represent one Arabic letter. In other transliterations, it is {Sv}. {sh_} is the lower case version of the same character.
As with other letters that are not in Latin-1, the fully Da'ud encoded form will be shown in the Ordinary and Armorial.
From Wreath: Revisiting Couped and Erased Body Parts
For the past few years, we have received submissions that do not meet the stringent guidelines that current precedent sets for erased body parts; namely that there be between three and eight jags, and that they take up 1/6 to 1/3 the overall height of the charge. We have usually declined to invoke said precedent as a grounds for return, as the intent of the submitter is clear and there is no DC for couped vs. erased.
To bring precedent into line with policy, we will explicitly state that while the guidelines laid out in the November 2001 Cover Letter are good to follow, they are not required. We also explicitly invoke the January 2011 precedent which states: "We will not be returning armory which is clearly meant to be erased unless the number of jags is overwhelming or the jags are too small to be clearly seen as erased." [Algar MacBlane, 1/2011 LoAR, A-An Tir]
West Acceptances - November LoAR
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West Returns - November LoAR
none
December 2019 LoAR (printed February 24, 2020) (West - September 2020 LoI)
Cover Letter
From Laurel: KWHSS 2021 Bids Requested
It's that time again! For those considering bidding on the 2021 Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium, the deadline to have your bid entered into OSCAR is May 1, 2020. This will give the College of Arms time for consideration so that we can announce the bid's award at the 2020 KWHSS in the Barony of Stormhold in Lochac, on July 8-10, at the Road Show.
Please remember that bids posted to OSCAR are publicly readable. Because of this, any personal information, such as legal names, addresses, phone numbers, and email, should not be included in these bids without signed written permission. Such information as is necessary for the entire College of Arms to see should be posted as a comment after the bid is finalized; any identifying information that the Sovereigns might need should be included as a Sovereign Note.
Please send a copy of the full unredacted bid to Laurel at laurel@heraldry.sca.org.
As a reminder, there is a KWHSS domain and web hosting space available on the SCA's servers. Please do not register a new domain.
Please see http://heraldry.sca.org/kwhss/ or contact Laurel if you have any questions.
Open Position - Laurel Sovereign of Arms
The Society for Creative Anachronism (SCA) is seeking candidates for the position of Laurel Principal Sovereign of Arms (Laurel).
Laurel is the principal heraldic officer of the Society and the head of the College of Arms, and is responsible for fostering the study and practice of heraldry, supervising the processing of submissions, and overseeing the heraldic activities of the Known World.
Laurel is an unpaid position, currently requiring approximately 20 hours a week. The position requires considerable tact and patience, armory and onomastic knowledge, supervisory ability, the ability to work within tight deadlines and coordinate closely with Wreath, Pelican, and other staff to produce a Laurel Letter of Acceptance and Return monthly, computer literacy and word processing skills, reliable e-mail and telephone access, and time and ability to travel.
A more detailed position description will be posted on the Society website in the near future.
Interested applicants should send a letter of interest, together with modern and SCA qualifications, hardcopy to:
Renee Signorotti
Society for Creative Anachronism
Box 360789
Milpitas CA 95036-0789
with courtesy copies to resumes@sca.org. The deadline for applications is May 1, 2020.
From Laurel: Call for Applications for Pelican Sovereign of Arms
Pelican is an unpaid position, currently requiring approximately 20 hours a week. Some knowledge of period onomastics and how we use that information in the SCA is essential. The position requires considerable tact and patience, research and reasoning ability, a clear understanding of the Standards for Evaluation of Names and Armory and past Laurel rulings, the ability to write clearly and succinctly, the ability to work within tight deadlines and coordinate closely with Pelican, Laurel and other staff to produce a Laurel Letter of Acceptance and Return monthly, computer literacy and word processing skills, reliable e-mail and telephone access, and time and ability to travel. Given the current structure of the office, a high-speed internet connection is required.
Resumés must be sent electronically to Laurel at bids@heraldry.sca.org. Resumés must be received by June 1, 2020, with an expected start date of October 2020.
From Laurel: Limitation on Name and Armory Registrations
In the January 2009 revision of the Administrative Handbook, the limit of name and armory slots for individuals and groups below the Baronial level was increased from four to six. In commentary on the rules change, some raised concerns that increasing the limit would lead to individuals and groups pushing up into the limit and beyond, filling up valuable onomastic and heraldic real estate. Over ten years later, 31 individuals have six pieces of armory (not including augmentations) registered to them, and no SCA branch subject to the limit has reached the limit on armorial bearings. The increase in the name registration limit has seen similar restraint by submitters.
Given the lack of widespread abuse of the expanded registration capability, we propose expanding the limit of name and armory registrations from six to ten, and welcome commentary from the College of Arms on this. A letter from Palimpsest will follow shortly.
Commendations to Commenters
From Pelican: This month I would like to thank two hard-working newer commenters, Ellisif in kristna and Lilie Dubh inghean ui Mordha. Not only are they diligent and always learning, they are brave enough to dive in with the "big kids" and occasionally make mistakes. This is exactly how someone learns to be a good commenter! In addition, I can always count on Ellisif or Lilie to ask a question that I may have taken for granted. I encourage more of our newer heralds to follow their examples and try out commenting at the Society level or attending decision meetings.
From Pelican: Reliable Sources
We have noticed recently in commentary some confusion about what is a reliable source. For example, this month it was asserted (mistakenly) that three sources are necessary to document a name element. This is a misunderstanding of what we expect. A single, reliable source is sufficient to attest to a name element. "Reliable" means a period manuscript or an academically-sound source. This does not mean the source has to be published by a university but that it is well researched and well documented, gives dates for name elements (rather than simply stating it is traditional) and does not appear to modernize spellings of the relevant name element. Appendix H of the Administrative Handbook is simply a list of some reliable sources that are broadly owned, so that copies of the documentation do not need to be provided to Laurel with the submission. Appearing in Appendix H does not make a source "better," it merely means that it is very common.
From Pelican: Letters of Attestation and When You Need What
This month we had a submitter who wished to use her legal father's entire full name as part of her registered name. To do so, the submitter provided a letter of permission from her father claim a relationship with him by using his full name as part of her name. However, the submitter did not include one other necessary piece of evidence: a letter attesting to the real world legal/blood relationship between herself and her father. A letter attesting to that relationship is necessary in order to use the Existing Registration Allowance.
(Remember, only real world legal relationships, whether of blood or marriage or adoption, allow for the use of the Existing Registration Allowance. SCA household or fealty relationships do not.)
As there seems to be some confusion on the paperwork required to use the Existing Registration Allowance, we reiterate the requirements, all in one place.
1. To use the Existing Registration Allowance, the submitter needs to prove a legal relationship with the person who originally registered the name element. The required letter is an attestation in the following form from the person who originally registered the name element:
"I, [Legal name], known in the Society as [Society name], hereby attest that [Legal name of submitter], known in the Society as [Society name of submitter] is my legal [son/daughter/child/spouse/grandchild, etc.]. I declare [or certify, verify, or state] under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct." Dated and signed with the legal name of the person giving the attestation.
Permission to presume/claim a relationship IS NOT required if the submitter is using only part of the other person's name.
For example, Violet de Luna is the legal child of Olalla de Luna. Violet needs to use the Existing Registration Allowance to document her name because de Luna is Spanish and Violet is English or Scots, which cannot be combined with Spanish. Violet needs to submit a letter from her parent attesting to the legal relationship. However, because the only part of the name she is using is de Luna, she does not need to submit a letter of permission to presume.
2. Berto di Guido Paletta is a claim to be the son of Guido Paletta. Whether or not Berto and Guido are related, Berto needs permission from Guido to claim to be his son in the Society. The letter should take the following form:
"I, [Legal name], known in the SCA as [Society name], give [Legal name of submitter], known in the SCA as [Society name of submitter], permission for my Society name to be used in part of [his / her / their] Society name in order to indicate a relationship. I understand that this permission cannot be withdrawn once [Legal name of submitter]'s name is registered." Dated and signed with the legal name of the person giving the attestation.
If Berto is actually the legal son of Guido Paletta and does not want to re-document his father's name, then he needs BOTH an attestation of legal relationship letter AND a letter of permission to claim a relationship. These two letters can be combined in a single document. For example:
"I, [Legal name], known in the Society as [Society name], hereby attest that [Legal name of submitter], known in the Society as [Society name of submitter] is my legal [son/daughter/child/spouse/grandchild, etc.]. I declare [or certify, verify, or state] under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct.
I further give [Legal name of submitter] permission for my Society name to be used in part of [his / her / their] Society name in order to indicate a relationship. I understand that this permission cannot be withdrawn once [Legal name of submitter]'s name is registered." Dated and signed with the legal name of the person giving the attestation.
This two-part letter is required ONLY when submitters are using the entire name of a relative and not otherwise documenting that name (i.e., relying on the Existing Registration Allowance).
West Acceptances - December LoAR
Alric Ælles sunu. Device. Vert, a goat's head erased between flaunches argent, each charged with a compass star vert.Brynhildr Marðardottir. Name and device. Per pale purpure and sable, a sword inverted between in chief a pair of wings, an orle argent.This device was pended for redraw on the August 2019 LoAR.
There is a step from period practice for the use of compass stars.
The depictions of animals with exaggeratedly long necks are found in period German and Italian rolls of arms.
Christiana of Danegeld Tor. Device. Per chevron purpure and gules, a chevron between a sun and three hearts Or.Artist's note: Please draw the orle wider.
Christopher of York. Device change. Sable, a natural tiger rampant contourny Or striped sable, a bordure ermine.This device was pended for redraw on the August 2019 LoAR.
Ihala Kettuinen. Name and device. Per fess with a left step Or and gules, in dexter chief three musical notes two and one sable.The submitter's previous device, Counterermine, a natural tiger's head cabossed Or marked sable, a bordure ermine, is retained as a badge.
There is a step from period practice for the use of a natural tiger.
Miriam Petchey. Name and device. Argent, a domestic cat rampant contourny purpure and a bordure potenty vert.There is a step from period practice for charging a field divided per fess with a step, either left or right.
Owen Owenson. Badge. Or, a heart gules winged azure.Nice late 16th century English name!
Ragnarr Walrichsson. Name (see PENDS for device).Nice badge!
Richard Dean. Name and device. Per chevron inverted Or and azure, an eagle sable, in base two drakkars Or.Submitted as Ragnarr Walerichsson, this spelling of the byname could not be documented. The Letter of Intent proposed constructing Walerichsson from the 12th century French Walericus, but French and Scandinavian elements cannot be combined unless both elements are dated prior to 1100, which was not the case here. In addition, French did not use -son to construct patronymic bynames.
In commentary, ffride wlfsdotter constructed Walrichsson from 15th century Norwegian elements. We have made this change for registration.
Sitti bint Isa. Device. Ermine, a wolf sejant contourny, on a chief sable three coneys courant contourny argent. Talan Penkarou. Name change from Úlfarr veiðimaðr Eysteinsson.Nice 16th century English name! In fact, a person with this exact name was christened in Cambridge, England in 1563.
Artist's note: Please draw the eagle and drakkars larger to fill the available space.
Talan Penkarou. Release of alternate name Angelo Sidoti.Submitted as Talan Pencarrow, this spelling of the byname is an interpolated 16th century form. The submitter requested the earliest spelling of the byname that we could document. To meet that request we have changed the byname to the attested Penkarou, dated to 1306.
The submitter requested authenticity for Cornish language and/or culture. Although both elements are Cornish, this name is not authentic because the elements are too far apart in time. Talan is from the 10th century, but the byname could not be dated that early. Names with this large a time gap are registerable if the elements are in the same language, as here, but we do not consider them authentic.
The submitter's previous name, Úlfarr veiðimaðr Eysteinsson, is released.
West Returns - December LoAR
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West Pends - December LoAR
Ragnarr Walrichsson. Device. Argent, a wolf's head cabossed per chevron sable and gules, in base five gouttes in chevron inverted, a bordure gules.This device is pended for redraw due to problems commenters had in identifying the primary charge, and to more properly depict the gouttes. Wreath staff has redrawn the artwork which has been accepted by the submitter.
This was item 6 on the West letter of September 20, 2019.
In Service,
Edith of Swanesdale, PaL,
Matins Herald
SUBMISSONS – March (2020)
ITEMS SENT TO LAUREL
Andrew of Riga releases the badge:
first registered in April of 1976 (via the West) and reblazoned in May of 1988
(via the West): (Fieldless) A spider rampant-passant.
and reblazoned in February of 1996 (via the West): (Fieldless) A spider proper.
and reblazoned in February of 1996 (via the West): (Fieldless) A spider sable.
The submitter requests AUTHENTICITY for language and/or culture (11th century Irish) and cares about the gender (male) of the name. The submitter confirms he wants the spelling ‘Declan’, although his form has the name listed as ‘Delcan’ at the top.
Declan - from “Life of St. Declan of Ardmore” (Edited from MS. in Bibliotheque Royale, Brussels) Translated from the Irish With Introduction by Rev. P. Power, M.R.I.A. [Member, Royal Irish Academy] University College, Cork: Declan was a Catholic saint from Ireland who lived in Ireland (dates of life are debated, but pre-Saint-Patrick) [https://www.ccel.org/d/declan/life/declan.html#life].
Mac an Bhreithiún - from “What’s in an Irish Name? A Study of the Personal Naming Systems of Irish and Irish English”, by Liam Mac Mathúna, (St Patrick’s College, Dublin), p. 69 “Mac an Bhreithiún” meaning ‘son of the judge’.
Documentation of the submitter's name formation is provided by the submitter' s reference for the byname.
The previously registered ‘Talan Penkarou’ is to be retained as an alternate (note: this is a change from what is marked on the form, the submitter sent updated preferences to the West Matins herald).
The submitter cares about the language and/or culture (Scottish Highlands) and the gender (male) of the name.
Donnchadh - from NCS “Index of Names in Irish Annals: Donnchad / Donnchadh” by Mari Elspeth nic Bryan (Kathleen M. O'Brien) Early Modern Irish Gaelic (c1200-c1700) nominative form: “Donnchadh” [https://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Masculine/Donnchad.shtml].
Mac Phail - from NCS Black, p. 556, under the header <MACPHAIL>, many different spellings. The following are a representative sampling that are similar to the submitter's preferred spelling: Niven M'Phaill 1488, Finlay Macfaill 1506, William Dow McPhayll 1557, Donald McFail 1578.
The Scots Gaelic name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA, Appendix A. The Scots/English name formation name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA, Appendix A. English and Scots are compatible with Gaelic per SENA, Appendix C.
Comments from the West College: SENA seems to show that if <mac> is being used as a patronymic connector, i.e., a separate word element, not a syllable of a surname, it should be lower-case. The West College suggests that this name should therefore be ‘Donnchadh mac Phail’.
These registrations were submitted under a mundane name which was later legally changed. Documentation of name-change provided. The name and device are to be released.
Garin Stewart of Gleann Faoil. This name was registered in September of 1992 (via the West).
The following device associated with this name was registered in September of 1992 (via the West): Per saltire vert and azure, a wolf's head couped affronty within a bordure embattled argent.
The following registrations were processed later under the new legal name:
Talan Penkarou. This name was registered in December of 2019 (via the West).
Et al.
Previously known as the unregistered Heather of House Blackeagle and Heather of Great Horse Keep.
The submitter cares about the gender (female) of the name.
Heather - from the submitter’s mundane name, as attested by her driver’s license.
Whitehorse - from “Dictionary of English and Welsh Surnames” by Charles Bardsley, p. 807. The header spelling of [Whitehorse] is stated to be 'local, 'at the White Horse', a sign-name.' Dated entries for this spelling are:
1651 Buried - Robert Whitehorse 1714 Married - Hugh Rance and Sarah Whitehorse.
William del Whithors, Finnes Roll, 2 Edw. I Mary Whithors: Household Book of Queen Isabella, 1338 Walter Whithors.The English name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.
Armory:
Azure, a horse passant to sinister argent, a chief embattled ermine.
The submitter requests AUTHENTICITY for language and/or culture (Welsh), and cares about the meaning (none noted) and the gender (female) of the name.
Maerwynn - from Felitzen’s "The Pre-Conquest Personal Names of Domesday Book", p. 326-327. ‘Mwrwynn’, where the "w" is curvy and has a bar over the top. (Did not find a definition of his use of this character in his introductory material.)
For the use of a variant of "w" to represent "ae" see "An Analytic Dictionary of the English Etymology: An Introduction", by Anatoly Liberman at [https://books.google.com/books?id=_m7k1Oi-cakC&pg=PA66&lpg=PA66&dq=old+english+ae+w&source=bl&ots=ex f8sAGp-n&sig=ACfU3U3a_jz9lA1G4KFx3AUO-huQ0zdkeQ&hl=en&ppis=_e&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiR_93t2_fnAhUOlKwKHVp uBxoQ6AEwGXoECAsQAQ#v=onepage&q=old%20english%20ae%20w&f=false].
verch - Welsh name formation, see below.
Eadweard - from NCS Withycombe, p. 94-95, under the header <Edward>, lists this spelling as Old English, undated.
The Welsh name formation <given + verch + relative’s given name> is found in Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn’s “A Simple Guide to Constructing 13th Century Welsh Names” and “... Constructing 16th Century Welsh Names” as per SENA Appendix A, from [http://heraldry.sca.org/names.html#wales]. English and Welsh are compatible per SENA Appendix C.
Comments from the West College: While Welsh and English are compatible, it seems odd to have two thoroughly English names combined with a Welsh patronymic connector.
The submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes and cares about the gender (female) of the name.
Meadhbh - from NCS “Names Found in Anglicized Irish Documents: Meadhbh”, by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (Kathleen M. O'Brien): modern Irish-Gaelic: ‘Meadhbh’ dated 1444, 1502, 1555, 1577, 1582. [http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/AnnalsIndex/Feminine/Meadhbh.shtml]
Hauteyn - from NCS “Index of Names in the 1292 Subsidy Roll of London: Surnames”, by Sara L. Uckelman known in the SCA as Aryanhwy merch Catmael: under ‘Hawtin’: ‘Hauteyn’ [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/surlondon1292.html].
The <English> name formation <given + byname> can be found in SENA, Appendix A. The combination of English and modern Irish-Gaelic is acceptable per SENA Appendix C.
Armory:
Sable, an astrolabe argent within a chaplet of thorns Or.
The submitter approved the new image submitted here.
For the Barony of Rivenoak, West Kingdom. Name registered as:
“Rivenoak, Shire of”. This branch-name was registered in January of 1983 (via the West).
Note: the form lists a name with which to associate this badge. This name is not registered, and this badge should be registered to the Barony with no specific name association.
Argent, a calygreyhound rampant to sinister, maintaining in its sinister claw a tankard and in its dexter claw a cudgel, both proper, on a base vert.
Per bend sinister vert and argent, a spool of thread argent and an open scroll azure.
The submitter will not accept MAJOR changes and cares about the sound (as similar in pronunciation as possible) and the gender (male) of the name.
Thomas - from NCS Withycombe p. 279-280, 1086, 1199-1220, 1273. "From the 13th C on Thomas has been one of the half-dozen commonest men's names in England".
Marshall - from NCS ‘Names from 15th Century York’ by Karen Larsdatter (Karen Harris) [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/york15/surnames-alphabetical.htm].
“Names Found in West Stow, West Suffolk Parish Registers 1558-1650: Sorted by Surname, then Grouped by Family”, by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (Kathleen M. O'Brien) “Marshall” dated 1603 [http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/WestStow/FamilyGroups.shtml#Marshall].
The English name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.
The submitter cares about the meaning (none noted), language and/or culture (none noted), and gender (male) of the name.
Wolfgang - from NCS German Names from Nürnberg, 1497, by Sara L. Uckelman (known in the SCA as Aryanhwy merch Catmael) ‘Wollffgang’, ‘Wolffgang’, and ‘Wollffgangk’. The article also lists ‘Wolf’ as an alternate spelling for ‘Wolff’ [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/nurnberg1497.html].
Wildßfewer - from NCS German Names from Nürnberg, 1497: Surnames N - Z, by Sara L. Uckelman (known in the SCA as Aryanhwy merch Catmael) ‘Wildßfew(e)r’ [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/german/surnamesnurnn-z.html].
The German name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.
The submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes, and cares about the language and/or culture (12th-14th century), and gender (female) of the name.
Yrmengerdis - from NCS ‘German Given Names 1200-1250’, by Talan Gwynek (Brian Scott), “Yrmengardis” [https://heraldry.sca.org/names/germ13.html].
de - from SENA: "Locatives based on place names use the forms von X; generic toponymics use vom Y, or another form of der; the form de X is found before about 1300. Locatives based on generic toponyms, house names or inn-sign names use the form zum Z."
Misine - from documentation provided on a 2010 LoAR by Gotfrid von Schwaben (Saker):
[https://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=145&id=14065]for Helena von Meissen - New Name: "Berger [..., Dieter. Geographische Namen in Deutschland: Herkunft und Bedeutung der Namen von Ländern, Städten, Bergen und Gewässern], pg. 196, header entry, lists it as a city on the Elbe river along the northern edge of the Dresden widening. Period spellings listed are: [Meissen] 1428, [Meißin] 1408, [Mizsen] 1378, [Myszne, Mysna] 1350, [Misine] 1064, [Misene] 1046, Misi] 1012/18, and [Misina, Misna] 968.
This documentation dates ‘Misine’ to 1064, and therefore compatible with ‘de’.
The German name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.
Armory:
Ermine, three larks volant bendwise vert.
The submitter approved the new image submitted here.
RETURNS
Argent, in fess a snake erect and a billhook bendwise sinister, between in pale two daggers blades outwards sable.
A ‘snake erect’ (i.e. a ‘snake palewise’) and ‘billhook bendwise sinister’ is a Unity of Posture issue, and this device is returned for this rules violation. Whether or not the snake/billhook is a UoP issue, the orientation of the two daggers definitely is, as per the Precedent from the July 2019 LoAR.
The West College recommends the submitter work with a herald to redesign this device. The College notes that positioning the billhook as ‘palewise’ would significantly improve the heraldic design of this armory.
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