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ATTENDEES:
Alizan De la Fontaine, Vesper; Edith of Swanesdale, Matins; Krysta of Starfall, Clerk of the College; Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym, Baldric; Hannah Storyteller, PaL; Faun Woods, Cornet; Domamir Vlatko syn, PEaL; Hirsch von Henford, Golem; Kean de Lacy, Brachet.
In remote attendance: Na'arah bat Avraham, Pinnacle Pursuivant; Angus Duncan Cameron, PEaL; Sigríðr Siggadóttir, Rivenoak Cornet.
COLLEGE OF HERALDS MEETINGS
Heralds' Meetings for 2019: September 15, and November 17. Meetings usually begin at
11:00 AM and will be held at Green Crown's home unless otherwise noted.
Meetings for 2020: January 5 (at Twelfth Night), March 8, May 17, July 26 (THIS IS A CHANGE),
September 20, and November 15.
The DEADLINES for submission forms and documentation are: 2019: September 4, and November 6. 2020 Deadlines: December 18, 2019 for the January meeting, February 26, July 6, July 15 (THIS IS A CHANGE), September 9, and November 4. Submission forms must be complete, and received either via EMAIL or hardcopy by the deadline date at midnight to be considered at the next meeting (which is about 11 days later, except December due to holidays and the roadshow meeting prep time needed). If the forms are EMAILED, then payment must arrive by the meeting day. WALK-IN submissions will only be considered if there is time, but in most cases will be delayed until the next meeting so that each submission can be reviewed fully.
REPORTS
Vesper (Alizan):
Seawolf (Domamir): He will be starting prep work for Coronet and will be soliciting volunteers for field/court heraldry. He is working with Their Excellencies Anton and Ciar to get the wording of the Beacon of the Mists ceremony to add to the book since it is in Principality law and has been given twice now. He will reach out to Her Grace Eilis (after Oerthan Coronet) to find out the procedure for updating the Mists ceremony book. He would also like to commend Sir Kean on a project he took on for Their Royal Highnesses. They have challenged Their court and guard to get their names and devices registered during Their reign and Sir Kean is helping shepherd them like the boss he is.
Sable Swan (Caoilinn/Moira): The Reign of Seth and Gwen has mostly successfully come to an end. Caoilinn audited the court reports and found three missing, all from local events. Ongoing meetings have been scheduled with Seth and Gwen to fix these reports. Caoilinn's suggestion for future Court reports is to have the court herald take a picture of the finished Court Report and forward a copy to Sable Swan or Their Highnesses.
Moira stepped up as Sable Swan Herald at Investiture and the Regnum was updated the next day. Investiture Court reports have been completed.
Stellanordica (Rodrigo/Bianca): Report from Rodrigo: Stellanordica sends a recap of his Principality to Vesper, including specifics for each local group. The same weekend as this Meeting, Rodrigo is stepping down as Stellanordica during Oerthan Coronet, with Viscountess Bianca Rose Byrne stepping into the position. Many thanks to Rodrigo for his service to the College.
Local group heralds are encouraging heraldic submissions as well as participating in voice heraldry activities. Baronial Heralds are as follows: Eskalya - Syr Verica of Lighthaven, Winter's Gate - Khevron Oktavii Tikhikovich Vorotnikov, stepping in as Sheva is moving out of Kingdom, Selveirgard - Ástriðr þórudóttir.
A list of Ceremonies' Book changes has been submitted to Vesper and he can submit them to Golem Herald as well. He only sent them to Vesper asking for approval guidance. He apologizes for not sending them to Golem as well as Vesper, it was late at night when he compiled them.
"Thanks for teaching and tolerating me over the last few years as Stellanordica. I feel we have a lot of awesome heralds in Oertha and I'm glad to have worked beside them and under some impressive Kingdom level heralds as well. We have several heralds in training in the Principality and I hope they come to fruition in the future."
Exchequer (Domamir): The College remains solvent. He needs to get in touch with HG Flieg if/when he returns from his travels to get the bank statements in anticipation of the Q2 reports. His other project between now and next meeting will be contacting Kingdom Exchequer to coordinate with the two of them and Vesper to get the signatures updated for the account.
Matins (Edith): Deputy (Hannah): Submissions continue to arrive and follow the process towards registration.
With Vesper's gracious permission, she accepted submissions at June Crown in Oertha. From this event, Matins brought back to the College 14 submissions from 9 clients. More have followed since, and there are still several pending that were worked on but not completed at the event.
Many thanks to Morwenna of Tintagel, who has written the official Letters of response to submitters for items published in LoARs for some time now. Morwenna is putting down her pen, as she is returning to school and must reallocate her time. The service she has provided to the College has helped us function and kept our clients well-informed for many years, and will be missed.
Clerk of the College (Krysta): Ceremony Book to "good enough" stage; more ceremonies likely on the way. Still Proofreading LoARs. Is there any other support needed from her?
Green Crown (Eilis): All reports for courts at June Crown have been received and approved. Reports for all other events are coming in on a regular basis, and Their Majesties' needs for Court Heralds are being met. She will be at Pennsic and then will be back in the Mists for several months.
Baldric (Gwenhwyfaer): She is starting to work on several classes, including name pronunciation and how to interact with local Royalty and prep for courts. Does the College want to hold a separate Heralds Collegium? No additional report at this time.
Brachet (Kean): He is doing commentary. He would like to pick up two deputies to train and share the commentary load with.
Green Cloak (Ari Ella): Is waiting on reports from her June Crown Heralds.
Green Trumpet (vacant): Deputy Support: Juliana of Sunset Shire: New Senior Staff position. This position will oversee Town Cry (formerly called Duty Shout) and Heralds Point (information). If interested in this position, please contact Vesper.
The duties of this position include: for Kingdom events: staff and manage information point out of Heralds Point, staff and manage town cries. Store, transport, and arrange set-up & pack-down of Heralds Point to all Kingdom events, specifically: Crown Tourneys (March, June, October), Beltane & Purgatorio Corontations, West-An-Tir War, Great Western War in coordination with Green Cloak.
Green Banner (Astrið): Consultation table activities since the May Heralds' Meeting:
Cynagua Spring Coronet: Gwenhwyfaer ferch Gwilym graciously took over the consultation table for this event, since that's a site she mostly can't get to.
Matins and Green Banner took the consultation table to June Crown in Oertha. Since Matins was present and was willing to take submissions at this event, they got a LOT of people hoping to submit or just getting advice. Except for periods when they were required to be closed, they worked all day and early evening Saturday and a couple of hours on Sunday morning.
Duke Frederick and Mistress Aasa stopped by to help out, as did several Oerthan heralds. Baron Khevron Oktavii Tikhikovich Vorotnikov, OP, had other obligations during the tourney, but brought his educational materials to the consultation table. Although she knows she missed a lot that was happening on the periphery of the pavilion, Astrið did note several of the populace perusing those materials. Viscount Rodrigo de Reinosa, Stellanordica Herald, provided the pavilion used and a large water barrel. Lady Ástriðr þórudóttir, Wolfhound Herald, also spent a lot of time at table. As well, she graciously undertook to be the delivery point for the folding chairs and table that Astrið had sent to Oertha for use running the table. If Astrið overlooked anyone who helped, please excuse her. They were VERY busy.
Golem (Hirsch): During the last couple of months: Court Reports are coming in, mostly pretty timely. Royalty are doing a good job of checking the work and adding corrections -- all seems to be good there. The Kingdom Ceremony Book, after close to 10 years, has been updated and the updates are online. (One thing he's pleased with: navigation in the PDFs -- on the Table of Contents, click the title of a ceremony and you jump to it, click the footer and you go back to the Table of Contents, and cross-references "page xxx" if you click the page number will take you to that page.) Modified the roster database code a little, as there are some issues with some of the roster letters not going out in a 'batch' mailing. Problem is that testing it would have meant sending out lots of emails and we didn't wish to spam the College of Heralds. That's about it. Overall things seem to be working.
Jared has received regular backups from Hirsch. And he is regularly doing downloads as needed.
Rivenoak (Sigríðr Siggadóttir): Siggi has just taken over as Herald for Rivenoak.
Aasa: She is working on a new project: medieval names from Scandinavia (as opposed to Old Norse/Viking era names).
ANNOUNCEMENTS / Other Business
GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTSFacebook Page: The West Kingdom Heralds' have their own page on Facebook, announcements, help with consultation, and more are often done there:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/302970543102065/
MAILING LIST: The West Kingdom College of Heralds has a mailing list for internal communication. NOTE that we are only using this for announcements and we may eventually phase it out. Any herald is welcome to join by request. To join the list, please subscribe at wkheralds-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
There are also individual mailing lists on Yahoo for the Principalities, but the traffic has gone to announcements only, and again these may be phased out in preference to the Facebook page noted above. Details can be found at the bottom of this page: I Need to Contact a Kingdom or Principality Herald
ELECTRONIC RESOURCES: Many interesting heraldic links can be found through the SCA Heraldry web page at http://www.sca.org/heraldry, including the Laurel home page, the on-line Armorial and Ordinary (with search capabilities) and The Academy of St. Gabriel (an onomastic and heraldic consultation service). The West Kingdom Heraldry site and the West Kingdom Awards List can be accessed through the West Kingdom site, http://www.westkingdom.org. Heraldic queries may also be addressed to Vesper at herald@westkingdom.org -- answers may take a few days.
BRACHET MEETINGS
Contact brachet@heralds.westkingdom.org for external commenting participation. A central Cynagua external commenting meeting may begin soon, so watch this space!
EXCERPTS FROM THE LOARS
The cover letters, acceptances and returns for the past can be found at http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/. If you are interested in responding to some of the calls for commentary put out by the Laurel Sovereign of Arms, please be sure to visit the site.March 2019 LoAR (printed May 29, 2019) (West - December 2018 LOI)
Cover Letter
From Wreath: Appendix J, Part 1 - Expansion
This month, we were asked to consider a device with three non-ordinary charge groups directly on the field. The arrangement of these charges was not attested in Appendix J of SENA, which requires all armory with three or more charge groups directly on the field to be documented. This would be grounds for return.
However, according to those involved in assembling Appendix J, the list of attested charge arrangements was done quickly at Pennsic's Herald's Point as the draft of SENA was being assembled. It was never intended to be a definitive list, and there are certainly patterns in period armory that are not covered by it.
We therefore ask for the College's help in expanding Appendix J to include other arrangements of three or more charge groups directly on the field. Of particular need are attested arrangements of charges where held charges are classified and considered as their own secondary charge group.
From Wreath: Appendix J, Part 2 - Maintenance and Sustenance
The August 2015 ruling, "Eliminating the Unsustainable `maintained/sustained' definitions" that caused maintained charges to be worth a DC also effectively brought them into the discussion on charge group theory as covered by Appendix J. However, maintained charges functioning as their own secondary charge group have been an issue never truly addressed within the context of Appendix J, Section E.
Part of this was out of kindness to submitters: Appendix J was written when maintained charges did not count for difference, so none of the attested patterns mention them. Any submitter who wanted to register armory with three non-ordinary charge groups directly on the field (e.g. Argent, a lion maintaining a spear, in chief three mullets sable) would have had to document the pattern in order to successfully register the armory, so very few consulting heralds were even aware that this was an issue.
That said, the call for documentation of arrangements to add to Appendix J specifically included a request for consideration of held charges in period armory as separate charge groups. As these specific patterns are added, the grace period for submitting armory with undocumented patterns of maintained and sustained charge groups will come to a close. Armory appearing on an external LoI published on or after January 1, 2020 that has three or more charge groups, including maintained secondary charges, will need to either have the pattern attested in SENA Appendix J or provide documentation.
From Wreath: Tomoe Revisited
This month we were asked to consider designs featuring three tomoe in annulo. In the January 2016 registration of the device of Samukawa Mantarou Yukimura, it was ruled: "This is the defining instance of the tomoe in Society heraldry. The tomoe is a comma-shaped period Japanese charge, generally used in threes rotating around a central axis. It cannot be used outside of the context of an Individually Attested Pattern."
The ruling above is not without merit; the only context we have in period mon for three tomoe in annulo, or mitsutomoe, is alone on the field. The inclusion of any other charge would be a deviation from documented practice. And if allowed as a step from period practice, there will certainly be times where the motif would be used with a design entirely unjustifiable by the available documentation, including armory that is decidedly European, perhaps even obnoxiously incongruous with anything we know about cultures and contact (e.g. the combination of a mitsutomoe with a Thor's hammer).
However, tomoe are attested armorial charges in period, and the specific arrangement of the tomoe into an annular swirl akin to a triskelion is an attested -- indeed, defining -- arrangement for these charges. While we fervently hope that submitters don't actively abuse loopholes placed into SENA for the benefit of non-European or non-heraldic cultures, we cannot in good conscience allow this restriction to remain.
Therefore, the previous precedent is overturned. Tomoe, specifically mitsutomoe, are accepted as a step from period practice. Functionally, mitsutomoe are a single charge for purposes of conflict-checking and unity of orientation/arrangement purposes.
Similar motifs, such as two tomoe in annulo (futatsutomoe) or four tomoe in annulo (yotsutomoe) will need to be documented to period mon in order to be used in Society armory, as will the use of a single tomoe. The number and arrangement of the tomoe in mitsutomoe are inherent in the design, in the same way flaunches are defined by their number and arrangement.
From Wreath: Revisiting Charged Tierces
This month we were asked to consider whether an augmentation of arms may use SENA A3A3 to violate the long-standing prohibition on charged tierces. While I saw no harm in this allowance, it did cause me to visit the original ruling to ensure that I wasn't missing an unexpected reason for the rule in the first place. When I was but a vert pursuivant, I believed the reasoning behind the rule to be that charged tierces were too close to marshalling. Bruce Batonvert's Pictorial Dictionary of Heraldry supports this interpretation, noting "since a charged tierce has the additional problem of looking like impaled armory, tierces may no longer be charged in Society armory."
However, the ruling dates from the February 1991 Cover Letter, where the reason listed was merely "what is becoming overwhelming support for the idea." Discussion prompted by that letter also considered "whether uncharged tierces should be included in this ban (and whether we could or should expand it to un/charged gores, gussets, etc.)."
Tierces, according to Batonvert, are difficult to document. "We have no unarguable examples of the tierce in period armory; it is found in modern flags, and therefore permitted in Society heraldry. However, because the use of a tierce creates an unbalanced design, the use of a tierce with other charges is a step from period practice, pending documentation." Gores are found as hypothetical charges in period armorial tracts, and gussets are attested charges in Scots heraldry.
We ask the College for input on whether we should revisit this ruling. Is there a reason consistent with the principles of SENA to continue the ban on charged tierces, gores, and gussets? Has more current research provided evidence of tierces in period? If not, is there a reason to continue their use at all?
From Wreath: Non-Tergiant Reptiles and Amphibians
This month we were asked to consider a tortoise rampant and three tortoises statant in annulo. Tortoises are tergiant by default, and one of the few quadrupeds (along with other reptiles and amphibians) which are currently allowed in that posture. The shell of the tortoise, however, limits the length of its legs, making it more difficult to identify when in the other quadrupedal postures. Several commenters noted that the tortoise rampant was particularly difficult to identify, and one noted that heraldic tortoises are tergiant, period.
This discussion could not have come at a more opportune time. In drafting my long-anticipated omnibus ruling on Unity of Posture, Orientation, and Arrangement, I've been trying to work out an easy and sensible way to categorize animate charges to determine which should be compared and which shouldn't. Generally, this has been easy by applying the principle of "if it can be compared, it must be compared:" the categories of fish, serpents, and birds each have postures which are incomparable with one another, or with quadrupeds. Most quadrupeds fit neatly into their own category, but the aforementioned quadrupedal reptiles and amphibians present a challenge.
On one hand, a charge group with a lion passant and a tortoise rampant would be returned for a clear violation of the Unity of Posture rules; both charges can be in the same posture under current Society practice, so they must be in the same posture. On the other hand, a lion cannot be tergiant so a lion rampant and a tortoise tergiant might not be comparable.
Lizards and their monstrous cousins salamanders are statant by default. Examples of lizards and salamanders appear in standard quadrupedal postures, such as the statant salamander badge of Francis I of France and the rampant lizards as supporters and crest of the Worshipful Company of Ironmongers. There are also examples of lizards in tergiant postures in late Italian and German armory. Frogs are found both tergiant and sejant in period arms. Tortoises are attested charges in tergiant postures in period armory.
We ask for the College's assistance in answering the following questions:
1. Are there examples in period armory of tortoises in postures other than tergiant?
2. Are there other examples of quadrupedal reptiles and amphibians in postures not listed above?
3. Absent explicit attestation, are tortoises in standard quadrupedal postures such as rampant, couchant, or sejant recognizable and identifiable enough that they should be allowed in SCA armory? If so, what guidance should we provide submitters to ensure that the postures are clearly and unambiguously depicted?
From Pelican: Considering Offensiveness
This month we considered a question of whether the name Jose Taberna de Torquemada should be considered offensive because the locative byname de Torquemada was also used by a particularly infamous historical figure, Grand Inquisitor Tomas de Torquemada. In the past, we have limited questions of offensiveness to the meaning of name elements or, occasionally, the sound of the name elements. We have registered without comment the surnames of infamous historical figures, for example: Báthory (Elizabeth Báthory, the "Blood Countess," serial killer and inspiration for innumerable mediocre vampire movies); Eichmann (Nazi war criminal Adolf Eichmann, one of the architects of the Holocaust); Heydrich (Nazi leader Reinhard Heydrich, the "Butcher of Prague," organizer of Kristallnacht, and another main architect of the Holocaust).
Based on some of the commentary on the de Torquemada question, we wish to open up a wider commentary on whether we should expand the concept of offensiveness in SENA to include name elements with unsavory historical associations. Bearing in mind that few historical figures from the Middle Ages and Renaissance are likely to meet modern standards of conduct, there seemed to be a consensus among commenters that some surnames (and possibly given names) are too closely associated with unquestionably awful people. The most frequently cited example was whether we would permit a submitter to register the surname Hitler. (Yes, it is period. No, don't submit it to make a point.) We ask Palimpsest to open a Rules Letter on the possible expansion of the concept of offensiveness without waiting for a test case.
From Palimpsest: Alternate Titles
The December 6, 2018 Palimpsest letter proposed the release of six alternate titles in Arabic, Qadi, Qadiya, Maulan, Maulana, Naquib, and Naquiba, based on research by Basil Lions Heart. We are approving the removal of all six of these titles from the alternative titles list. We thank Lions Heart for his thoughtful research into medieval Arabic language and culture.
West Acceptances - March LoAR
West, Kingdom of the. Heraldic title Green Banner Pursuivant.West, Kingdom of the. Heraldic title Green Trumpet Pursuivant.Submitted as Green Banner_, a timely correction by Kingdom added the necessary designator Pursuivant.
Submitted as Green Trumpet_, a timely correction by Kingdom added the necessary designator Pursuivant.
April 2019 LoAR (printed June 24, 2019) (West - January 2019 LOI)
Cover Letter
From Wreath: Results of Call for Documentation on Single Items Above a Chevron or Per Chevron Line of Division
In the November 2018 Cover Letter, we asked submitters to provide examples of single charges positioned directly above a chevron or per chevron line of division, or beneath a chevron inverted or per chevron inverted line of division. Thank you to Gunnvor Orle, Amanda Crux Australis, and Sabine Berard for providing a sizable cross-section of samples across several armorial traditions.
The examples provided show four main patterns featuring a charge directly above a chevron.
Based on this documentation, we ask consulting heralds to discourage submitters from using the pattern of [Tincture] a chevron between [two dissimilar charges], and warn submitters that a wide and inexplicable disparity in size between a charge in chief and a charge in base in such a pattern may be grounds for return.
From Wreath: Expansion of SENA A2B4b to Include Fantastical Flora and Fauna
In the November 2018 LoAR, we asked commenters whether SENA A2B4b, which allows natural flora and fauna not indigenous to Europe to be used with a step from period practice (in keeping with a few examples we have of 16th century badges featuring New World fauna, namely turkeys) to expand to include fantastical flora and fauna from non-European cultures. A spirited discussion ensued, and I would like to thank Etienne Sea Stag, Sneferu Golden Pillar, Basil Lions Heart, Mathghamhain Elmet, Muirenn Blue Tyger, Jeanne Marie Noir Licorne, and Alisoun Metron Ariston for their input. I would like to call particular attention to Mistress Solveig Þrándardóttir, who not only provided an exceptional framework for expansion of SCA armory to be more inclusive of cultures outside of the Anglo-Norman hegemony, but also provided a much better phrasing of the rule than I had initially drafted.
Given substantial support for this change among the College and massive proliferation of fantastical creatures in 16th century heraldry (notably, but by no means exclusive to, Tudor badge adoption), SENA A2B4b will be modified to include fantastical flora and fauna from outside Europe, subject to the same documentation expectations and blazonability currently required of their natural counterparts. Please see Palimpsest's revision of the rule in the following section.
This rule change was proposed and accepted amidst a growing expectation by Society members to expand the scope of the SCA to be less Eurocentric. While the rule assists submitters with non-European personas and cultural interests to include charges that represent their passions, it is hardly a magic bullet. In coming months, discussion will continue on how best to serve submitters who want armory that accurately represents cultures and practices outside of the Anglo-Norman system of heraldry as heritable property. I expect there to be an even livelier debate on that subject than there was on this one.
Commentary on the submission that prompted this rule change request asked whether this modification of SENA A2B4b reverses my previous ruling on August 2017 that barred Asian dragons from registration under Core Heraldry rules. This decision was, perhaps, one of the least popular of my tenure thus far, and one that should have prompted discussion about the limitations of SENA A2B4 back then. I am happy to say that with the adoption of this revision to SENA, Asian dragons are once again registerable under Core Rules as a step from period practice. The previous long-standing restriction on the number of toes per foot that Chinese dragons may have without presuming upon the King of Korea or the Emperor of China are still in effect.
From Palimpsest: Change to SENA A2B4b
From the Palimpsest letter dated January 24, 2019
Final wording for the rule change:
b. Non-European Plants and Animals: Plants and animals from outside Europe which
were known to Europeans in period are registerable but a step from period practice.
This includes plants and animals from the New World, Africa, and Asia. The few
such animals used as period charges or crests are registerable as period charges,
without a step from period practice. However, there are not enough of them to allow
a general pattern for the use of any non-European animals and plants. Plants and
animals which cannot be documented to be known to Europeans before 1600 (from the interior
of Africa, northern Asia, or parts of the
Americas that were not systematically explored by Europeans before
1600, for example) will not be registered. While grey period citations will be considered,
the great expansion of knowledge Europeans gained about the rest of the world between
1600 and 1650 means that the burden of proof of pre-1600 knowledge here is slightly higher.
United States
Attested depictions of fantastical plants or animals from outside Europe are also registerable with a step from period practice under this rule, if they can be shown to be known to Europeans before 1600 and have a standard enough depiction to be identifiable. However, their postures and orientations must be describable in standard blazon in order to be registered.
West Acceptances - April LoAR
Cassiopeia Livius. Name and device. Sable, a dragonfly and in chief two mullets of four points Or. José Ramirez de Coronado. Name and device. Vert, a heron contourny argent, a chief Or.Marcus Livius Varus. Name and device. Sable, on a bend wavy gules fimbriated three talbots passant to sinister palewise argent.Although Spanish names use accents inconsistently in period, the submitter may be interested to know that the second element can also be spelled Ramírez. If the submitter prefers the accented form, he may make a request for reconsideration.
Nice Spanish name from the late 15th century onwards!
Shimon Levi ben Yitzchak haKohen. Device change. Argent, a wolf sejant sable and a gore azure.Nice Roman name for 4th century B.C.E. through the 2nd century C.E.!
There is a step from period practice for the use of a gore with additional charges.
The submitter's previous device, Argent, a pawprint and an orle sable, is retained as a badge.
West Returns - April LoAR
Rew Payne. Device. Argent, a raven striking contourny sable maintaining a heart gules, on a chief sable a plate between an increscent and a decrescent argent.Rew Payne. Badge. (Fieldless) A raven striking to sinister sable maintaining a heart gules.In the October 2018 return of the previous version of this device, it was ruled:
This (armory) is returned for violation of SENA A2C1, which states that "While depictions that are somewhat more naturalistic than the flat stylized depictions of heraldic charges will be registered, animals and plants may not be drawn in trian aspect (with perspective)." In this submission, the raven is drawn in trian aspect, with the angle of its sinister wing showing an angled dive inconsistent with registerable depictions.
Upon resubmission, the artist should include internal detailing to aid in identification of the raven.
While the submitter did address the artistic notes, the posture of the raven remains unchanged. The angle of the body and wings are exactly the same, and commenters generally agreed that the bird is still in trian aspect.
Generally, there are only three positions for a pair of wings on a winged creature: displayed (expanding out from either side of the body), addorsed (expanding back-to-back on one side of the body), or close (tucked up next to the body). If a bird is rising or striking, the wings will almost always be addorsed, with one wing almost entirely obscured by the other.
Upon resubmission, please make the wings of this bird properly addorsed.
In the October 2018 return of the previous version of this device, it was ruled:
This (armory) is returned for violation of SENA A2C1, which states that "While depictions that are somewhat more naturalistic than the flat stylized depictions of heraldic charges will be registered, animals and plants may not be drawn in trian aspect (with perspective)." In this submission, the raven is drawn in trian aspect, with the angle of its sinister wing showing an angled dive inconsistent with registerable depictions.
Upon resubmission, the artist should include internal detailing to aid in identification of the raven.
While the submitter did address the artistic notes, the posture of the raven remains unchanged. The angle of the body and wings are exactly the same, and commenters generally agreed that the bird is still in trian aspect.
Generally, there are only three positions for a pair of wings on a winged creature: displayed (expanding out from either side of the body), addorsed (expanding back-to-back on one side of the body), or close (tucked up next to the body). If a bird is rising or striking, the wings will almost always be addorsed, with one wing almost entirely obscured by the other.
Upon resubmission, please make the wings of this bird properly addorsed.
May 2019 LoAR (printed July 22, 2019) (No West Kingdom LOI)
Cover Letter
From Laurel: Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium 2019
What a great time in Calontir! We want to take the opportunity to thank our hosts, the Barony of Coeur d'Ennui and the Canton of Axed Root, as well as Her Highness of Calontir. There were so many classes that we didn't have a lunch break scheduled in. There was a party with throwing axes and the usual mob in restaurants. Special thanks to the event stewards: Alexandra Vazquez de Granada and Zaneta Baseggio. They did a great job.
From Laurel: Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium 2020
We announced last year that Known World 2020 would be in Lochac. Here's an update. The 2020 Known World Heraldic and Scribal Symposium will be held July 8-10 (yes, that's during the week -- but who's just going to Lochac for the weekend) in Melbourne, Australia. We look forward to seeing you in Lochac! A call for bids for Known World 2021 will go out around the end of the year.
From Pelican: Attesting to Legal Relationships for Existing Registration Allowance
There has been some confusion about how to attest to the existence of a legal relationship between submitters in order to take advantage of the Existing Registration Allowance. Do not use the form letter in which one submitter allows the other to claim a relationship. That is for permission to have a relationship conflict; it does not provide evidence of the legal relationship necessary for the Existing Registration Allowance. Instead, please use the following form.
"I, [legal name of submitter 1], known in the SCA as [SCA name 1], hereby attest that I am the legal [parent, spouse, grandparent, sibling, etc.] of [legal name of submitter 2].
I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing statement is true and correct."
It should then be signed and dated by submitter 1 with their legal name. The "penalty of perjury" language makes the attestation a binding legal document in the United States so that we do not have to view birth certificates, marriage licenses, etc. If there is equivalent language in Lochac or Drachenwald, I would appreciate hearing from someone with expertise in that area.
From Pelican: Packet Documents and You
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In Service,
Edith of Swanesdale, PaL,
Matins Herald
SUBMISSONS – July (2019)
ITEMS SENT TO LAUREL
The submitter will NOT accept ANY changes and cares about the gender (female) of the name.
Abigail - from the "Dictionary of Medieval Names from European Sources" "Abigail" [http://dmnes.org/name/Abigail?fbclid=lwAR2LN_f1Fcrz/A9P4dxdYijGzhTSjOpZJOd3D-KFOX9R8xwebJIGKWOWE]
Delia - legal name allowance - the submitter provided a copy of her birth certificate.
St. John - from NCS FamilySearch P-batch: Oliver St. John Christened Sep 1583, BLETSOE,BEDFORD, ENGLAND [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NPDC-S3D].
The late-period English name formation <double given + byname> is found SENA Appendix A.
The West College suggest that "St. John" be changed to "Saint John" for registration based on the 2006 Precedent: "Auria of St. Golias The local group name College of St. Golias was registered in July of 1981 (via Atenveldt) with the scribal abbreviation St. for Saint, something we no longer permit." Nov 2006 LoAR.
Armory:
Or, two domestic cats in pale courant counter-courant, a bordure engrailed sable.
The submitter cares about the meaning (byname meaning "from / dweller by a wood") and the gender (female) of the name.
Ælfwynn - from NCS Academy of St. Gabriel report # 947 "Ælfwynn" dated to the 11th century [http://www.panix.com/~gabriel/public-bin/showfinal.cgi?947+0].
æt - SENA Appendix A: Old English placename phrase.
Weald - Bosworth & Toller, page 1172.
- Old English noun meaning "high land covered with wood, wood, forest" as defined
by Bosworth and Toiler (heading "weald"). Under Appendix A of SENA, in Old English,
locative bynames use the form "aet X".
The Middle English form "de Wolde" is found as a byname in 1319 in NCS "Middle English Bynames in Early Fourteenth-Century London" by Sara L. Uckelman, pg. 50 [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/english/bynames1319.pdf].
æt Weald - is the submitter's attempt to reconstruct an Old English form. Similar bynames derived from other Old English words for wood/forest are attested in the same article, including "atte Wode" dated 1292 and 1319, "atte Herst" dated 1292, and "atte Holte" dated 1319.
If this reconstruction is found to be unreasonable, and a Middle English form must be used, the submitter prefers "atte" to "de".
The Old English name formation <given + byname> is acceptable per SENA Appendix A.
Armory:
Or, in saltire an arrow proper flighted and a quill pen, on a chief vert an ivy vine Or.
The submitter cares about the sound (both pronounced "bear") and marked no other boxes.
Bear - from NCS FamilySearch C-batch "Elizabeth Bear" christened Oct 1597, St. George, Canterbury, Kent, England [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQWM-R3P]. The use of Late Period English surnames as given names is permissible per April 2010 Precedent.
Bear - from NCS FamilySearch C-batch "Michael Bear" christened May 1631, Beaksbourne, Kent, England [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSQM-BNL].
The English name formation <given + byname> is acceptable per SENA Appendix A.
Examples of late-period English names with the same given and byname:
"William William" married Oct 1603 Shropshire, England batch M03474-1 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NKHB-GLX
"James James" born Apr 1592 Shropshire, England batch P00680-1 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JM24-K2D
"Robert Robert" born 1613 Hereford, England batch M13713-1 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N66K-R62
Armory:
Per fess azure and argent, a rainbow proper and a bear passant gules.
The submitter cares about the sound ("Bernadette") and the gender (female) of the name.
Bernadette - legal name allowance, submitter provided a driver's license.
of Eskalya - byname formation "of <registered SCA placename>" is allowed per the Branch Name Allowance, PN.1.B.2.f. Barony of Eskalya, registered Aug. 1979.
Armory:
Per pale argent and azure, three comets counter-changed.
Per the August 2014 Cover Letter for the LoAR these mullets elongated to base are actually a variant of a comet and should be blazoned thus:
Previous precedent, from the October 2013 Cover Letter, declared mullets elongated palewise to be unregisterable:
We had two submissions this month that featured a mullet elongated palewise. We have no evidence that such artistic treatment of a mullet was ever done in period armory at all, and we grant no difference between a mullet and a mullet elongated palewise.
However, we do have period evidence of mullets elongated to base (i.e., only the basemost ray is stretched out), but those appear to be a variant of a comet, not normal mullet. An example of such a comet can be seen in the 16th century Italian armorial Insignia Nobilium Patavinorum, BSB Cod.icon. 275, on f.65r (found at http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/~db/bsb00001422/image_137).
Therefore, as we would like to avoid confusion between comets and mullets, mullets elongated pale wise will no longer be registerable after the April 2014 decision meetings.
Per that precedent, mullets elongated to base are considered to be a variant of comets, and will be blazoned as comets. However, these variants are constructed from mullets, and not compass stars. Barring period evidence of compass stars elongated to base, that charge will not be registerable after the March 2015 decision meeting.
The submitter cares about the language and/or culture (Spanish) and the gender (male) of the name.
Bernal - from NCS "Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" by Juliana de Luna "Bernal" appears 5 times [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/isabella/MensGivenAlpha.html].
Diez - from NCS "Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" by Juliana de Luna "Diez" listed as a less common variant of "Dias" [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/isabella/patronymic.html].
The Spanish name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.
The submitter has gone by the, unregistered, name "Rowena Maria de Flores".
The submitter marked no boxes.
Bianca - The masculine form "Bianco" is listed in the Florentine Renaissance Resources, Online Catasto of 1427. Edited by David Herlihy, Christiane Klapisch-Zuber, R. Burr Litchfield and Anthony Molho [http://cds.library.brown.edu/projects/catasto/]. The feminine version is formed by replacing the terminal "-o" with an "-a".
Maria - from NCS "Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" by Juliana de Luna under Feminine Given Names "Maria" [https://heraldry.sca.org/names/isabella/WomensGivenAlpha.html].
de Flores - from NCS "Spanish Names from the Late 15th Century" by Juliana de Luna under Locative Surname "de Flores" [https://heraldry.sca.org/names/isabella/locative.html].
The late-period Castilian (Spanish) name formation <double given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.
Holding Name: Bleda of Golden Rivers registered Jan. 2019.
The submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes and cares about the sound of the name. The submitter does not care about the gender of the name.
Bleda - previously registered, with the documentation:
- from The World of the Huns by Otto J. Maenchen-Helfen: pg. 387-388 "Bleda Attila's
older brother. The Greek sources have Bληδας and Bλιδας, the Latin Bleda. The Arian
bishop whom Marcian sent as his ambassador to Geiseric, and one of Totila's
generals had the same name. It is generally agreed that Bleda is Germanic, the short
form of a name like OHG Bladardus, Baltgildus, Blatgisus. Bleda of Marcellinus Comes
(s.a. 442) appears in Bede's Chronicle in the strange form Blædla.
The English scribes "corrected" the name; they knew it was Blædla from oral
tradition where the name was adapted to Ætla."
of Scythia - from the online translation [https://people.ucalgary.ca/~vandersp/Courses/texts/jordgeti.html] we know that Jordanes talked about Scythia and/or Scythians in the same work where he mentions Bleda: "During this peace Attila was lord over all the Huns and almost the sole earthly ruler of all the tribes of Scythia..."
The byname "the Scythian" would be lingua Societatis for an ethnic byname. Looks like Jordanes uses "Scythus" for such a byname. At least, the oblique form Scythis shows up in the discussion of Vesosis in the Latin text: [http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/iordanes1.html] <<documentation provided by Dame Ursula via Pelican>>.
New Alternate Name: Noah Noff Con Sequence.
The submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes and cares about the gender (male) of the name.
Noah - from NCS FamilySearch M-batch: Noah Stanly, married Sep. 1650, Saint Michael Bassishaw, London, London, England [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5K9-Y9Q].
Noff - from NCS FamilySearch M-batch: John Noff, married Feb. 1636, Hawkesbury, Gloucester, England [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NLSQ-7NT].
Con - from NCS FamilySearch M-batch: Robertus Con christened Jul. 1597, Alne, Yorkshire, England [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J7ZJ-9QR].
Sequence - from NCS FamilySearch C-batch: Thomas Sequence, married Sep. 1613, Saint Dunstan In The East, London, London, England [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5KD-V9B].
The late-period English name formation <double given + double byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.
The submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes and cares about the language and/or culture (Japanese 1200-1350 - Kamajura period) and gender (male) of the name.
Hojo - from NCS [NCMJ] Solveig Throndardottir. Name Construction in Mediaeval Japan. p. 404 under the spelling 'Houjou', which is spelled differently due to a difference in the translation into the Western alphabet. From the 2nd Edition: "Houjou" pg. 316, surname.
Masamori - from NCS [NCMJ] meaning genuine and plentiful. From 2nd Edition: pg. 178, nanori.
The Japanese name formation [surname + nanori] is found in NCS [NCMJ].
Armory:
Sable, on a torteau fimbriated two bees in fess heads to center argent.
The formerly registered Cynehild Cynesigesdohtor is to be retained as an Alternate Name.
The submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes and doesn't care about the gender of the name.
Kinehild - The submitter has provided many pages of documentation from the on-line Middle English Dictionary of how words that incorporated the <cyne-> spelling in Old English were spelled in Middle English. She has succeeded in demonstrating that <kine-> is the commonest spelling, although by no means the only one. She has also provided documentation of the continued usage in Middle English of some Old English dithemic names, including at least one ending in <-hild>.
However, none of this constitutes documentation that <Kinehild> is a Middle English name. We can't construct dithemic given names in Middle English, and the submitter has provided no evidence that <Cynehild> survived into Middle English in any form. Whether or not the data she provided constitute proof of a pattern is for the College of Arms to decide.
le librari - UMich Middle English Compendium Dictionary at librari, defined as "[a] writer of records, scribe, clerk", citations dated to 1382 - see pages of documentation.
librari - The URL for the Middle English Compendium Dictionary is: [https://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/middle-english-dictionary/dictionary/MED25398].
Occupational byname: "le + occupation" from SENA Appendix A, English.
The information the submitter cites in her documentation for "le" is no longer available via the link she cites, but is available in "An Index to the 1332 Lay Subsidy Rolls for Lincolnshire, England", by Mari ingen Briain meic Donnchada (Kathleen M. O'Brien) at: [http://medievalscotland.org/kmo/LincLSR/].
The use of a feminine given name and a masculine byname from the Dec. 2001 LoAR:
"The question came up whether the particle le is appropriate in a woman's byname. Dr. D. A. Postles, "Lincolnshire Lay Subsidy Rolls" (http://www.le.ac.uk/elh/pot/lincscon.html), lists many women's bynames that include the particle la and some that include the particle le. These subsidy rolls date to 1332. Identified examples from the parish of Kesteven (village and line number are in parenthesis) include: Isabel le [sic] vescy (Welbourn, 1), Agnes le [sic] Palm[er] (Tallington, 2), Matilda le [sic] Schapman (Spanby, 1), Isabel le [sic] prouost' (Horbling, 13), Alice le [sic] Baker (Horbling, 16), Agnes le Hyrde (Horbling, 31), Alice le [sic] straunge (Colsterworth, 3), Matilda le [sic] Deye (Woolsthorpe [2nd], 13), Marg' le [sic] Bailyf' (Culverthorpe, 5), Quenilda le [sic] hyrde (Kirkby la Thorpe cum Laylthorp', 20), and Agnes le [sic] Wryth' (Wellingore, 8). Examples in the parish of Lindsey, village of Caenby, include: Alice le [sic] Couhird (line 3) and Avota le [sic] Couhird (line 12). These examples are certainly enough to support le Trewe as a feminine byname appropriate for 1332."
The English name formation <given + <le> + occupational byname> is acceptable per SENA Appendix A.
The submitter cares about the language and/or culture (Norse/Scandinavian) and the gender (male) of the name.
Kollr - from NCS "Viking Names found in Landnámabók" by Aryanhwy merch Catmael (Sara L. Uckelman): "Kollr" [http://www.ellipsis.cx/~liana/names/norse/landnamabok.html].
Ulfsson - from NCS Geir Bassi "Úlfr" pg. 15, formed to "Ulfsson" per Geir Bassi pg. 17 drop the '-r', add '-s' +'-son'.
The Scandinavian name formation <given + patronymic byname> is acceptable per SENA Appendix A. In line with current precedent, the submitter is omitting all accents and diacritic marks.
Armory:
Quarterly sable and gules, a bear pawprint and three Thor's hammers argent.
There is an SFPP for the use of the pawprint.
The submitter cares about the sound (sound like "May") and gender (female) of the name.
Mæva - from NCS Geir Bassi, pg. 13 "Mæva"
of Eskalya - byname formation "of <registered SCA placename>" is allowed per the Branch Name Allowance, PN.1.B.2.f. Barony of Eskalya, registered Aug. 1979.
The submitter marked no boxes.
Pillow - the submitter's legal name, driver's license provided.
of Oertha - byname formation "of <registered SCA placename>" is allowed per the Branch Name Allowance, PN.1.B.2.f. Principality of Oertha, registered March 1985 via the West.
Armory:
Azure, five pillows Or.
Device: Argent, a raven striking contourny sable clutching a heart gules, on a chief sable a plate between an increscent and a decrescent argent.
This device was twice returned for redrawing: on the Oct. 2018 LoAR and again on the Apr. 2019 LoAR. This is a resubmission - redraw - no changes to the device previously submitted.
This is the submitter's third attempt to get the drawing to pass. She has now given in and used the clipart image from Mistholme that has passed multiple times in the past two years.
Badge: (Fieldless) A raven striking to sinister sable maintaining a heart gules.
This badge was twice returned for redrawing: on the Oct. 2018 LoAR and again on the Apr. 2019 LoAR. This is a resubmission - redraw - no changes to the badge previously submitted.
This is the submitter's third attempt to get the drawing to pass. She has now given in and used the clipart image from Mistholme that has passed multiple times in the past two years.
The submitter will NOT accept MAJOR changes and cares about the meaning (Sigrðr daughter of Siggi) and gender (female) of the name. Listed on the form as "Sigríðr Siggadóttir of Bearheaven", the name was meant to be "Sigríðr Siggadóttir of Bearhaven", but she has requested it be updated to "Sigríðr Siggadóttir".
Sigríðr - from NCS Geir Bassi pg. 14
Siggadóttir - daughter of the masculine 'Siggi' from the Viking Answer Lady: "Found in Old Danish and OW.Norse as Siggi, occurs in Old Swedish as Sigge. A short form of masculine names in Sig-. Cleasby-Vígfússon shows Siggi as specifically a diminuitive form of Sigurðr. Occurs as a personal name in the runic nominative case form [sigi] in Vs5: " had the stone raised...travelled to England, died in Spjallboði's ... May God help his soul... Siggi cut the runes."" [http://www.vikinganswerlady.com/ONMensNames.shtml]
- per NCS Geir Bassi to change from a given name ending in '-i' to the patronymic: remove '-i', and '-a' and '-dóttir' p.17.
The Scandinavian name formation <given + patronymic> is found in SENA Appendix A.
Armory:
Or, a bird contourny gules, on a chief enarched azure three compass stars argent.
There is an SFPP for the use of compass stars.
The submitter marked no boxes except for 'Don't Care' under gender. Submitted as Sitti Bint Isa, the West College removed the capitalization based on the examples for 'daughter of' as 'bint'.
Sitti - from Academy of St. Gabriel article Sixteenth-Century Turkish Names by Ursula Whitcher, copyright 2002: under the category Women's Name, Muslim Names: Sitti [https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ursula/ottoman/].
bint Isa - from Academy of St. Gabriel article Sixteenth-Century Turkish Names by Ursula Whitcher, copyright 2002: under the category Men's Name, Muslim Names: isa [https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ursula/ottoman/].
The Turkish name structure [given + patronymic] is found referencing SENA Appendix A: "All patterns found in Ursula Georges, "Sixteenth-Century Turkish Names" (http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ursula/ottoman/) are registerable." and Ursula's article under Name Structure: "A woman named Fatima whose father was called Abdullah would have been known as Fatima bint Abdullah."
The submitter cares about the language and/or culture (Anglicized Irish) and the gender (male) of the name.
Thomas - from Withycombe, in the old version pg. 167
MacEwan - from NCS Academy of St. Gabriel report #2288 "MacEwen" and from NCS Academy of St. Gabriel report #2158 "The name was sometimes anglicized <Ewen>, <Ewan>, or <Evan> in late-period records."
The Irish name formation <given + byname> is found in SENA Appendix A.
Armory:
Argent, on a pale between in chief two mullets vert, a lighthouse argent.
The previously registered Tatiana Todhunter is to be released upon registration.
The submitter marked no boxes.
Victoria - Victoria: English female given name dated between 1617 and 1702 (Withycombe, p. 289). However, there are several individuals in IGI that precede these dates: Victoria Marshall has a christening date of 8 June 1589 in Darrington, York, England, Batch P00759-1 [https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?givenname=Victoria&birth_place=England&birth_year_from=1500&birth_year_to=1650&count=20].
Goldheart - from NCS Reany & Wilson, under the heading 'Gold', innumerable bynames starting with 'Gold-' including 'Goldbrik' and 'Goldcorn'. 'Heart' as a variant spelling of 'Hart' in R&W.
If 'Goldheart' cannot be registered, the submitter will accept 'Gold Heart'.
The English name formation <given + byname> is acceptable per SENA Appendix A.
New Heraldic Title: Kitten Pursuivant.
The West Kingdom College of Heralds submits this title for registration.
The heraldic title pattern from Medieval Secular Order Names by Juliana de Luna (Julia Smith): "Charge" [http://heraldry.sca.org/names/order/new/] does not apply to this submission, as baby animals do not qualify as period charges.
The West currently has Leveret Pursuivant and Sable Cygnet Pursuivant registered, establishing a pattern of heraldic titles formed of juvenile animal + Pursuivant. Under the ERA, the West should be able to register Kitten Pursuivant.
RETURNS
Purpure, a rolling pin per bend argent.
This badge is returned for further work. The West College of Heralds notes two issues that will need to be addressed prior to registration: First, charges that have never before been registered by the SCA College of Arms must provide period examples to allow for registration. As there are currently no registrations of rolling pins, this requirement applies to the submitted badge.
Second, there has to be some identifying feature to make this charge a 'rolling pin' as opposed to a whole bunch of other possibilities. The West College collectively could not identify the charge without being told what is was supposed to be. We suggest the submitter work with a herald to address both of these concerns prior to resubmission.
Ermine, a wolf sejant contourny sable between three rabbits courant in annulo gules.
While no conflict was found for this device, it is returned for further work as the
emblazon does not match the blazon of 'rabbits in annulo'. The definition of 'in annulo',
as used by the SCA College of Arms, requires that the charges arranged thus form an
almost complete annulet. In the submitted device, the rabbits are not 'in annulo'
and either the primary charge needs adjusting so that the 3 rabbits can fit into a
circle around it, or there need to be more rabbits in order to close the circle.
As of this meeting, the West College suggests the following changes that appear to be
free of conflict at this time:
- Six rabbits in annulo around the wolf
- Three rabbits in their current locations, all facing right-side up
The West College affirms that this is a very good wolf. Yes he is.
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